1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.BZ 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.BZ 3 00:00:44,527 --> 00:00:49,601 Everything was a challenge that needed to be conquered. 4 00:00:54,606 --> 00:00:57,160 It was always, we have something to prove, 5 00:00:57,264 --> 00:01:00,336 a wall to break down. 6 00:01:00,439 --> 00:01:04,823 We're gonna, like, melt people's fucking faces off 7 00:01:04,926 --> 00:01:07,964 because they expected us to suck. 8 00:01:14,143 --> 00:01:15,558 We were literally out there 9 00:01:15,661 --> 00:01:17,629 with people throwing pint glasses at our heads 10 00:01:17,732 --> 00:01:19,700 and pulling their dicks out at us. 11 00:01:21,736 --> 00:01:26,120 But we have a superpower when we're together. 12 00:01:28,605 --> 00:01:31,505 And it was like us against everybody. 13 00:01:31,608 --> 00:01:33,162 It was like us against the world. 14 00:01:52,802 --> 00:01:55,253 Grateful Dead girlfriends over here or something? 15 00:01:55,356 --> 00:01:57,427 Wait! We're totally not ready. 16 00:01:57,531 --> 00:01:58,532 What do you mean you're not ready? 17 00:01:58,635 --> 00:02:00,189 You're ready when we introduce you! 18 00:02:00,292 --> 00:02:01,638 Rock 'n' roll! 19 00:02:01,742 --> 00:02:03,813 Yeah, we're trying. 20 00:02:03,916 --> 00:02:04,848 I'd like to introduce 21 00:02:04,952 --> 00:02:06,885 the Grateful Dead girlfriends now. 22 00:02:06,988 --> 00:02:07,989 Forget it. 23 00:02:08,093 --> 00:02:09,991 Scratch that joke from the record. 24 00:02:10,095 --> 00:02:11,131 You ready? 25 00:02:11,234 --> 00:02:12,339 Donny Osmond. 26 00:02:12,442 --> 00:02:14,410 You ready? 27 00:02:14,513 --> 00:02:16,412 Well, don't fuckin' be sophisticated. 28 00:02:16,515 --> 00:02:18,552 Make some noise or somethin'. 29 00:02:18,655 --> 00:02:20,968 This is punk rock, you knuckleheads! 30 00:02:22,211 --> 00:02:26,249 Welcome the Lunachicks! 31 00:02:31,358 --> 00:02:33,394 ♪ RIP out the ugly eyes of you ♪ 32 00:02:33,498 --> 00:02:35,810 ♪ I tear your yawning jaw apart ♪ 33 00:02:35,914 --> 00:02:37,536 When I first heard of the Lunachicks, 34 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:39,262 I was like, what the fuck is this? 35 00:02:39,366 --> 00:02:41,091 This is amazing, it was hilarious, 36 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:42,472 and it was rocking. 37 00:02:42,576 --> 00:02:43,715 It kind of reminded me of Beastie Boys, 38 00:02:43,818 --> 00:02:46,235 where it was just, like, punk rock but funny. 39 00:02:48,202 --> 00:02:50,308 Really aggressive rock, 40 00:02:50,411 --> 00:02:52,551 with all this drama to it, 41 00:02:52,655 --> 00:02:55,485 and yet also, like, with a wink and a nod. 42 00:02:55,589 --> 00:02:57,936 To me, they were like, wow, that's the whole package. 43 00:02:59,317 --> 00:03:01,629 They were tough, they were dirty, gritty. 44 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:04,529 They had a bad-ass New York attitude, 45 00:03:04,632 --> 00:03:06,703 but they were really funny. 46 00:03:06,807 --> 00:03:08,429 It was kind of rad and inspiring 47 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:10,466 and kind of intimidating all at the same time. 48 00:03:10,569 --> 00:03:11,881 ♪ Do it, bad, bad, bad, bad 49 00:03:11,984 --> 00:03:12,951 ♪ Do it, do it 50 00:03:13,054 --> 00:03:13,917 Bottom line is, 51 00:03:14,021 --> 00:03:16,023 they're a great fucking band. 52 00:03:16,126 --> 00:03:17,783 And they are incredible live. 53 00:03:19,854 --> 00:03:21,442 They have this wonderful chemistry 54 00:03:21,546 --> 00:03:24,307 that is the Lunachicks. 55 00:03:24,411 --> 00:03:25,653 They were punks, 56 00:03:25,757 --> 00:03:28,622 they were rock chicks, and they were great. 57 00:03:28,725 --> 00:03:30,106 They had attitude. 58 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:35,353 I mean, I was really surprised that they didn't go further. 59 00:03:35,456 --> 00:03:36,733 It was too much for some people. 60 00:03:36,837 --> 00:03:37,941 Really. 61 00:03:38,045 --> 00:03:41,255 But, I mean, fuck 'em if they can't take a joke. 62 00:03:41,359 --> 00:03:44,672 ♪ Signed hairy and blue, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 63 00:03:44,776 --> 00:03:46,502 ♪ Stop shaving and get it waxed ♪ 64 00:03:46,605 --> 00:03:49,470 ♪ No one likes a hairy trap 65 00:03:49,574 --> 00:03:52,439 ♪ Oh, hairy trap 66 00:03:52,542 --> 00:03:53,819 There's one right there. 67 00:03:53,923 --> 00:03:57,444 And one--and there's another one over there. 68 00:03:57,547 --> 00:04:00,964 In the early nineties, we had a song called "Plugg." 69 00:04:02,897 --> 00:04:03,726 So we had this idea 70 00:04:03,829 --> 00:04:07,557 to spontaneously menstruate on stage. 71 00:04:07,661 --> 00:04:11,665 So we packed Ziploc baggies full of fake blood. 72 00:04:11,768 --> 00:04:15,807 I taped my baggie to the underside of my guitar. 73 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:18,568 Theo had hers taped around her thighs, 74 00:04:18,672 --> 00:04:21,261 and we were all gonna pop the bags at the same time 75 00:04:21,364 --> 00:04:22,848 and have blood everywhere. 76 00:04:22,952 --> 00:04:25,057 So I had my guitar, and then the break happened, 77 00:04:25,161 --> 00:04:26,335 and I went boom! 78 00:04:26,438 --> 00:04:27,508 And blood everywhere. 79 00:04:27,612 --> 00:04:29,372 There's blood all down my legs, 80 00:04:29,476 --> 00:04:31,098 and there's blood all over my dress. 81 00:04:31,201 --> 00:04:33,549 So they photoshopped the blood off, 82 00:04:33,652 --> 00:04:36,068 and my legs have no blood on them. 83 00:04:40,935 --> 00:04:43,628 The Lunachicks really tapped into 84 00:04:43,731 --> 00:04:47,425 every girl's desire to take down the patriarchy, 85 00:04:47,528 --> 00:04:50,359 whether or not it's a conscious thing. 86 00:04:53,223 --> 00:04:54,535 In high school, I came across 87 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:56,261 "Jerk of All Trades," 88 00:04:56,365 --> 00:04:57,676 and I turned it over, 89 00:04:57,780 --> 00:05:00,714 and I was like, "Oh, my God, they're all girls." 90 00:05:00,817 --> 00:05:03,544 ♪ Walk in front of a car at the mall ♪ 91 00:05:03,648 --> 00:05:06,306 I was like, holy shit. 92 00:05:06,409 --> 00:05:08,031 I need to know everything about this band. 93 00:05:08,135 --> 00:05:11,311 ♪ You want to die, I can see it in your eyes ♪ 94 00:05:11,414 --> 00:05:13,554 And I brought that CD home and I played it 95 00:05:13,658 --> 00:05:17,282 until every fart and burp and curse, I absorbed it, 96 00:05:17,386 --> 00:05:18,559 and I was just like, 97 00:05:18,663 --> 00:05:19,871 this is what I've been waiting for. 98 00:05:19,974 --> 00:05:22,529 I've been waiting for this band my whole life. 99 00:05:22,632 --> 00:05:24,876 We are working on a book 100 00:05:24,979 --> 00:05:28,086 that's probably gonna be some kind of memoir. 101 00:05:28,189 --> 00:05:29,536 So you're on stage. 102 00:05:29,639 --> 00:05:30,571 You're--you have an audience for the first time... 103 00:05:30,675 --> 00:05:31,607 Oh, I was petrified. 104 00:05:31,710 --> 00:05:33,091 There was a lot of looking down. 105 00:05:33,194 --> 00:05:35,749 We just started talking about making the book. 106 00:05:35,852 --> 00:05:37,958 It gave us a reason to see each other more 107 00:05:38,061 --> 00:05:41,617 and start telling the story of our lives together. 108 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,102 ♪ Pretty ugly, pretty ugly 109 00:05:44,205 --> 00:05:47,277 We started playing together when we were 17. 110 00:05:47,381 --> 00:05:48,555 all: Lunachicks! 111 00:05:48,658 --> 00:05:51,143 Gina. I play guitar 112 00:05:51,247 --> 00:05:53,076 Sindi, guitar. 113 00:05:53,180 --> 00:05:54,906 Theo. I sing. 114 00:05:55,009 --> 00:05:56,701 Squid. I play bass. 115 00:05:56,804 --> 00:06:01,153 ♪ Whoa 116 00:06:01,257 --> 00:06:05,157 ♪ Whaa, whaa 117 00:06:05,261 --> 00:06:07,367 I'm from Brooklyn. 118 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:08,954 My parents tried to control me 119 00:06:09,058 --> 00:06:12,061 in a way I couldn't be controlled. 120 00:06:12,164 --> 00:06:13,407 When I was very little, 121 00:06:13,511 --> 00:06:15,513 my parents always said "calmly" to me, 122 00:06:15,616 --> 00:06:17,100 like "Calmly, Theo. Calmly, Theo," 123 00:06:17,204 --> 00:06:18,585 to the point where I asked them 124 00:06:18,688 --> 00:06:20,103 if my name was "Calmly." 125 00:06:24,625 --> 00:06:27,076 My parents found the Sikh religion, 126 00:06:27,179 --> 00:06:29,768 and so we spent the next year being Sikhs, 127 00:06:29,872 --> 00:06:31,598 and then exactly a year later, 128 00:06:31,701 --> 00:06:33,496 they're like, "We're not doing this anymore." 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,223 We went to Unitarian Church for, like, 5 minutes. 130 00:06:36,326 --> 00:06:37,431 They were like, "Nah." 131 00:06:37,535 --> 00:06:40,089 We went to Quaker meeting. 132 00:06:40,192 --> 00:06:41,401 They were very strict. 133 00:06:41,504 --> 00:06:43,506 And I wasn't allowed to be mad. 134 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:47,717 I was so angry and nowhere to put it. 135 00:06:48,097 --> 00:06:51,065 I met Theo the last year of junior high school. 136 00:06:51,169 --> 00:06:52,377 I was a bad kid. 137 00:06:52,481 --> 00:06:53,689 I got in trouble a lot. 138 00:06:53,792 --> 00:06:55,829 I was, like, the mean brunette. 139 00:06:55,932 --> 00:06:58,038 I'm not actually a natural blonde. 140 00:07:00,489 --> 00:07:03,492 Syd was just full of attitude, 141 00:07:03,595 --> 00:07:05,355 like badass, cool. 142 00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:06,943 Wore, like, lipstick. 143 00:07:07,047 --> 00:07:09,014 And she did not like me. 144 00:07:09,118 --> 00:07:11,603 Hated her the minute I laid eyes on her. 145 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:12,880 She was beautiful, 146 00:07:12,984 --> 00:07:15,124 and, like, the boys had crushes on her. 147 00:07:15,227 --> 00:07:17,298 I was totally snubbing the shit out of her 148 00:07:17,402 --> 00:07:18,679 and then did one of those, like, 149 00:07:18,783 --> 00:07:22,752 keep your enemies closer maneuvers. 150 00:07:22,856 --> 00:07:25,410 We were in a dance class, and I was a dancer. 151 00:07:25,514 --> 00:07:27,308 We had a dance show, 152 00:07:27,412 --> 00:07:28,517 and you could, like, choreograph 153 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:30,070 dances in the show, so I was like, 154 00:07:30,173 --> 00:07:32,693 "Heard you can dance." She's like, "Yeah." 155 00:07:32,797 --> 00:07:34,971 "Want to be in my dance?" "Okay." 156 00:07:35,075 --> 00:07:37,111 And then fell, like, in love with her. 157 00:07:37,215 --> 00:07:38,009 Like, instantly. 158 00:07:38,112 --> 00:07:40,183 I was like, "Oh, my God, I'm in." 159 00:07:40,287 --> 00:07:41,978 I'm like, "I'm with the cool kids. 160 00:07:42,082 --> 00:07:43,014 It's happening." 161 00:07:44,187 --> 00:07:45,361 It's so, like, emotional 162 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,501 when you have girlfriends that age. 163 00:07:47,605 --> 00:07:48,882 Before you're having sex, 164 00:07:48,985 --> 00:07:51,056 that's, like, your first real relationship. 165 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,576 It's, like, as important as any lover, 166 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:54,750 you know what I mean? 167 00:07:54,853 --> 00:07:56,441 Like, the amount of drama and tears. 168 00:07:56,545 --> 00:07:57,787 We hung out constantly, 169 00:07:57,891 --> 00:07:59,513 and I dragged her to my house, like, 170 00:07:59,617 --> 00:08:00,859 "Let me show you this, let me show you that." 171 00:08:00,963 --> 00:08:01,826 Like, wouldn't let her leave. 172 00:08:01,929 --> 00:08:04,656 We were, like, best friends. 173 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,072 Gina, I met through my friend from camp. 174 00:08:07,176 --> 00:08:10,800 I think we were both 12, and I was such a nerd. 175 00:08:10,904 --> 00:08:12,906 I was such a nerd and a misfit. 176 00:08:13,009 --> 00:08:15,115 All I did was draw all day. 177 00:08:15,218 --> 00:08:18,187 My friend was like, "You're going to meet my friend Theo, 178 00:08:18,290 --> 00:08:19,809 "and she's really cool, 179 00:08:19,913 --> 00:08:22,467 "and she looks just like Julie from 'Fame,' 180 00:08:22,571 --> 00:08:24,469 so just try to be cool." 181 00:08:25,746 --> 00:08:27,023 Remember the movie "Fame"? 182 00:08:27,127 --> 00:08:28,749 After seeing that movie, yeah, I was like, 183 00:08:28,853 --> 00:08:29,957 "I wanna go to the Fame school." 184 00:08:30,061 --> 00:08:31,580 This is no Mickey Mouse school. 185 00:08:31,683 --> 00:08:33,582 You're not getting off easy because you're talented. 186 00:08:33,685 --> 00:08:34,824 You'll work twice as hard. 187 00:08:34,928 --> 00:08:36,723 Everybody wanted to go to that school. 188 00:08:36,826 --> 00:08:40,416 It was, like, all these kids from drastically different 189 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,038 economic neighborhoods in New York. 190 00:08:42,142 --> 00:08:43,246 You know, there's, like, 191 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:44,316 the rich girl from the Upper East side, 192 00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:45,386 and the poor kid from the Bronx. 193 00:08:45,490 --> 00:08:47,043 You know, they all, like, get into this 194 00:08:47,147 --> 00:08:49,529 really exclusive program at this high school, 195 00:08:49,632 --> 00:08:51,841 which is really exactly how it was. 196 00:08:51,945 --> 00:08:53,429 And I got into the drama department, 197 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:54,948 so I thought it was really cool 198 00:08:55,051 --> 00:08:56,950 that I got into "Fame" school. 199 00:08:57,053 --> 00:08:58,779 I always wanted to be an artist. 200 00:08:58,883 --> 00:09:01,368 So I got into the art department, 201 00:09:01,471 --> 00:09:04,095 and freshman year, I found out 202 00:09:04,198 --> 00:09:06,028 that Theo was gonna be in my class. 203 00:09:06,131 --> 00:09:08,617 And that's how we reconnected and became friends. 204 00:09:12,034 --> 00:09:14,657 New York in the '70s and '80s 205 00:09:14,761 --> 00:09:17,039 was just a very different place. 206 00:09:17,142 --> 00:09:21,561 A lot of abandoned buildings and wrecked cars. 207 00:09:21,664 --> 00:09:24,287 You know, at 14, you could get a fake ID. 208 00:09:24,391 --> 00:09:25,599 And I remember, they were like, 209 00:09:25,703 --> 00:09:28,947 "You have to choose one of four occupations." 210 00:09:29,051 --> 00:09:31,501 There was, like, four choices, and I was like, "Secretary." 211 00:09:31,605 --> 00:09:33,814 You know, "Secre--secretary." 212 00:09:33,918 --> 00:09:36,368 The first time I ever hung out with Gina and Theo, 213 00:09:36,472 --> 00:09:38,060 we went to the Roxy, 214 00:09:38,163 --> 00:09:40,821 and we went to see, like, Herbie Hancock or something. 215 00:09:40,925 --> 00:09:43,134 Not punk rock at all. 216 00:09:43,237 --> 00:09:45,930 It was so fun-- music and going out 217 00:09:46,033 --> 00:09:48,139 and lying to my parents about where I was sleeping 218 00:09:48,242 --> 00:09:50,072 and being out all night and taking the train 219 00:09:50,175 --> 00:09:52,108 and, you know, all these crazy, like, risks. 220 00:09:53,385 --> 00:09:54,870 And it was shitty-- 221 00:09:54,973 --> 00:09:58,252 really dangerous and shitty and gritty and fun. 222 00:09:58,356 --> 00:10:03,361 We used to drop acid and go to Times Square in the '80s. 223 00:10:03,464 --> 00:10:04,604 Watch the movie "Times Square." 224 00:10:04,707 --> 00:10:06,019 It was like a playground for us. 225 00:10:06,122 --> 00:10:08,849 A dirty, dangerous playground. 226 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,991 One of my first concerts was The Misfits 227 00:10:13,095 --> 00:10:16,546 at the Ukrainian Hall, 1981, 228 00:10:16,650 --> 00:10:19,032 and it was fantastic. 229 00:10:21,931 --> 00:10:24,416 And then I started going to the Peppermint Lounge 230 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,108 on 45th Street. 231 00:10:26,211 --> 00:10:31,320 15, 16 years old, and it was like Times Square in 1981. 232 00:10:31,423 --> 00:10:33,011 It was really cool and scary. 233 00:10:33,115 --> 00:10:36,325 And nobody raped me or stabbed me 234 00:10:36,428 --> 00:10:39,431 or anything like that, so that was really great. 235 00:10:39,535 --> 00:10:41,054 These are my girls! 236 00:10:41,157 --> 00:10:42,849 I don't know where they came from, 237 00:10:42,952 --> 00:10:48,164 but there they were, and I just loved them. 238 00:10:48,751 --> 00:10:52,203 Sindi was the coolest girl in the world. 239 00:10:52,306 --> 00:10:53,722 She's not that much older than me, 240 00:10:53,825 --> 00:10:55,551 but I feel like she raised me. 241 00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:58,899 When you're 15 and your friend has their own apartment, 242 00:10:59,003 --> 00:11:01,350 live with their boyfriend, it's really different. 243 00:11:01,453 --> 00:11:03,214 It's a big five years. 244 00:11:03,317 --> 00:11:06,493 Sindi was a huge influence in every way-- 245 00:11:06,596 --> 00:11:08,737 style, clothes, music. 246 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,464 She became the most badass big sister to all of us. 247 00:11:14,087 --> 00:11:16,054 All I wanted to do was, after school, 248 00:11:16,158 --> 00:11:17,711 get down to the East Village. 249 00:11:17,815 --> 00:11:20,852 The East Village was just a cool place. 250 00:11:20,956 --> 00:11:23,821 Every chance I got, I'd be hanging around St Mark's, 251 00:11:23,924 --> 00:11:25,719 going to Seconds Records. 252 00:11:25,823 --> 00:11:27,894 You'd see all the punks hanging out on stoops, 253 00:11:27,997 --> 00:11:29,550 and you'd be really kind of scared of them, 254 00:11:29,654 --> 00:11:30,690 but you wanted to hang out with them, 255 00:11:30,793 --> 00:11:32,243 'cause that's who you wanted to be. 256 00:11:35,108 --> 00:11:36,661 There was Lismar Lounge, 257 00:11:36,765 --> 00:11:38,525 the Pyramid on Avenue A, 258 00:11:38,628 --> 00:11:40,147 King Tut's Wah Wah Hut. 259 00:11:40,251 --> 00:11:41,493 CB's, of course. 260 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:45,532 There was, like, a sort of '60s 261 00:11:45,635 --> 00:11:47,361 garage-y scene going on. 262 00:11:47,465 --> 00:11:50,157 All these underground bands that were very influential-- 263 00:11:50,261 --> 00:11:52,297 the Swamp Goblyns that then became the Kretins, 264 00:11:52,401 --> 00:11:54,748 and then Da Willys, the Man Eaters. 265 00:11:54,852 --> 00:11:56,716 I was just like, "Oh, my God, I need to do this. 266 00:11:56,819 --> 00:11:58,269 I can do this if they could do it." 267 00:11:59,926 --> 00:12:01,410 We had a band called Freaks, 268 00:12:01,513 --> 00:12:06,587 and we started to see those little Lunachicks, 269 00:12:06,691 --> 00:12:09,142 and they were not old enough to get in, 270 00:12:09,245 --> 00:12:12,145 and they would stand outside when we played. 271 00:12:13,422 --> 00:12:16,045 And we loved that, and we loved them. 272 00:12:16,149 --> 00:12:17,978 And I kept always telling them, 273 00:12:18,082 --> 00:12:20,912 "You know, you should be a band." 274 00:12:21,016 --> 00:12:23,915 Yes, why shouldn't it work? It's us. 275 00:12:24,019 --> 00:12:25,883 And everything we do is fun and great, 276 00:12:25,986 --> 00:12:28,437 so this can also be fun and great. 277 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:30,542 And sure enough, it was. 278 00:12:30,646 --> 00:12:31,751 Yeah, baby. 279 00:12:31,854 --> 00:12:32,682 Are we gonna do the whole thing? 280 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:33,787 Yeah. 281 00:12:33,891 --> 00:12:35,030 Oh, wait. 282 00:12:36,238 --> 00:12:37,964 ♪ Wheoo, wheeoo 283 00:12:38,067 --> 00:12:39,862 I like that, "Wheoo, wheeoo." 284 00:12:39,966 --> 00:12:41,243 We have it all figured out. 285 00:12:41,346 --> 00:12:44,004 Theo's gonna sing. I'm gonna play bass. 286 00:12:44,108 --> 00:12:45,972 Sindi's gonna play guitar, 'cause she has a guitar. 287 00:12:46,075 --> 00:12:47,456 And they're like, "You can play lead guitar!" 288 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,872 And I was like, "I don't know how to play lead guitar." 289 00:12:49,976 --> 00:12:50,942 And they're like, "That's okay. 290 00:12:51,046 --> 00:12:52,012 "We don't know how to play anything either, 291 00:12:52,116 --> 00:12:53,324 so let's just do it." 292 00:12:53,427 --> 00:12:54,359 Ready! 293 00:12:54,463 --> 00:12:55,291 OK. 294 00:12:56,396 --> 00:12:57,846 ♪ No remorse 295 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:58,847 We were awful. 296 00:12:58,950 --> 00:13:01,090 We were so awful. 297 00:13:01,194 --> 00:13:05,577 ♪ This life of yours is mine to take ♪ 298 00:13:05,681 --> 00:13:09,202 We were practicing in my bedroom, in my parents' house. 299 00:13:09,305 --> 00:13:11,825 Theo's heavy metal boyfriend, Mike, 300 00:13:11,929 --> 00:13:13,516 ended up being our first drummer 301 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:17,141 and played our first show, I think, when we were 18. 302 00:13:17,244 --> 00:13:19,971 ♪ I touch your corpse 303 00:13:20,075 --> 00:13:25,770 ♪ One more time 304 00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,222 I think it was our second show, 305 00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:34,917 and Kim and Thurston from Sonic Youth were there. 306 00:13:35,021 --> 00:13:38,369 We wanted to be this mishmash of MC5 307 00:13:38,472 --> 00:13:41,821 and Black Sabbath and The Clash and Iggy-- 308 00:13:41,924 --> 00:13:44,824 you know, all our favorite bands. 309 00:13:44,927 --> 00:13:46,826 But we did not sound like that. 310 00:13:46,929 --> 00:13:48,724 So Thurston Moore was there, 311 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:51,313 and he thought we were a noise band. 312 00:13:52,970 --> 00:13:55,593 He called up Blast First, 313 00:13:55,696 --> 00:13:57,181 and that became our first label, 314 00:13:57,284 --> 00:13:59,528 with the idea that Thurston and Kim Gordon 315 00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:02,634 would be producing our album. 316 00:14:02,738 --> 00:14:04,153 I write most of the lyrics, 317 00:14:04,257 --> 00:14:06,569 and people come in with different songs, 318 00:14:06,673 --> 00:14:08,917 and we sort of meld together 319 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:14,301 to make this sort of mind-warping combobulation 320 00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:17,235 of sound and noise and stuff like that. 321 00:14:17,339 --> 00:14:20,307 Our songs are about people we love 322 00:14:20,411 --> 00:14:24,518 and people we hate and TV shows we love and-- 323 00:14:24,622 --> 00:14:26,555 and killing people. 324 00:14:26,658 --> 00:14:27,418 We just write songs about it. 325 00:14:27,521 --> 00:14:28,798 We don't really do any of that stuff. 326 00:14:30,145 --> 00:14:31,767 The things that we did after school-- 327 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,114 the TV watching and the pot smoking 328 00:14:34,218 --> 00:14:35,598 and then the binge-eating-- 329 00:14:35,702 --> 00:14:39,637 these all became fodder for Lunachicks songs. 330 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:40,810 Hey, hey, hey! 331 00:14:40,914 --> 00:14:42,226 So we wrote a song 332 00:14:42,329 --> 00:14:44,297 about Mabel King from "What's Happening!!" 333 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,368 ♪ Mabel King, you are the queen ♪ 334 00:14:46,471 --> 00:14:49,026 We wrote a song about Jan Brady of the Brady Bunch. 335 00:14:49,129 --> 00:14:50,372 ♪ Well, I know I cracked 336 00:14:50,475 --> 00:14:52,581 ♪ The family picture with my bike ♪ 337 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:53,789 Jan, look out! 338 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:57,137 ♪ I wasn't wearing my glasses ♪ 339 00:14:57,241 --> 00:14:58,621 On top of watching TV, 340 00:14:58,725 --> 00:15:00,002 we were obsessed with B movies, 341 00:15:00,106 --> 00:15:02,418 and we were obsessed with John Waters. 342 00:15:02,522 --> 00:15:03,281 Totally obsessed. 343 00:15:03,385 --> 00:15:06,250 Welcome to Mortville, ladies. 344 00:15:06,353 --> 00:15:08,183 And there's a scene in "Desperate Living" 345 00:15:08,286 --> 00:15:10,702 where the babysitter is tripping... 346 00:15:10,806 --> 00:15:13,153 What have you done with my baby? 347 00:15:13,257 --> 00:15:15,397 - I don't know, I'm trippin'! - Trippin'? 348 00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:17,778 And she puts the kid in the refrigerator. 349 00:15:19,504 --> 00:15:21,127 Are we gonna reveal what the name of our album is? 350 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:22,473 We might as well. 351 00:15:22,576 --> 00:15:26,718 - "Babysitters On Acid"! - "Babysitters On Acid." 352 00:15:31,516 --> 00:15:33,553 ♪ Hello, dear, there's some popcorn in here ♪ 353 00:15:33,656 --> 00:15:36,452 ♪ There's soda and ice cream, but don't touch the beer ♪ 354 00:15:36,556 --> 00:15:37,798 Getting on that mic and feeling 355 00:15:37,902 --> 00:15:40,215 the loudness and the power, 356 00:15:40,318 --> 00:15:45,254 I remember feeling finally free. 357 00:15:45,358 --> 00:15:47,705 ♪ Yes, ma'am, and I'll see you later ♪ 358 00:15:47,808 --> 00:15:51,260 ♪ Don't worry, I'll be on my best behavior ♪ 359 00:15:53,987 --> 00:15:55,333 You're such a visual band. 360 00:15:55,437 --> 00:15:56,817 People talk about the Lunachicks like, 361 00:15:56,921 --> 00:15:59,027 "Oh, yeah, they dressed up." - Yeah. 362 00:15:59,130 --> 00:16:01,132 Combing thrift stores was, like, a big... 363 00:16:01,236 --> 00:16:02,168 - It was, like, a big-- - Pastime of ours. 364 00:16:02,271 --> 00:16:03,341 That's what we would do. 365 00:16:03,445 --> 00:16:04,929 I really would love them 366 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:06,137 to get back together. 367 00:16:06,241 --> 00:16:07,345 Shitting in the Salvation Army always. 368 00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:09,002 Shitting in fuckin' thrift stores 369 00:16:09,106 --> 00:16:10,141 all over the country--so gross. 370 00:16:10,245 --> 00:16:11,936 I think there would be a tremendous interest 371 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,145 from all over the world. 372 00:16:14,249 --> 00:16:17,286 I'm saying this with all the respect in the world. 373 00:16:17,390 --> 00:16:18,701 You're in it. You don't... 374 00:16:19,771 --> 00:16:21,325 You have a different perspective. 375 00:16:21,428 --> 00:16:24,017 In my mind, if you went on tour, 376 00:16:24,121 --> 00:16:25,985 you would fucking kill it. 377 00:16:27,503 --> 00:16:28,918 I'm telling you. 378 00:16:33,475 --> 00:16:35,201 Anyhoo. 379 00:16:39,412 --> 00:16:41,103 My identity was really wrapped up in the band 380 00:16:41,207 --> 00:16:42,863 for a long time. 381 00:16:42,967 --> 00:16:45,452 I wouldn't say I turned my back on that identity, 382 00:16:45,556 --> 00:16:49,801 but I always had a fear of holding onto the past. 383 00:16:49,905 --> 00:16:51,320 You hungry for pizza? 384 00:16:51,424 --> 00:16:53,253 OK, whoever wants pizza, come down! 385 00:16:53,357 --> 00:16:54,599 I also had two kids 386 00:16:54,703 --> 00:16:57,706 and opened two restaurants in 12 1/2 years. 387 00:16:57,809 --> 00:17:00,640 People are like, "Oh, that poor older woman 388 00:17:00,743 --> 00:17:04,264 "with tattoos that has to bus tables for a living, 389 00:17:04,368 --> 00:17:05,541 we feel really bad for her." 390 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,338 I feel like the older I get, 391 00:17:09,442 --> 00:17:13,929 the clearer the sense of my own mortality 392 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:15,448 and feeling time slipping away, 393 00:17:15,551 --> 00:17:18,865 and wanting to make as much art and music 394 00:17:18,968 --> 00:17:21,109 as possible before I die. 395 00:17:22,662 --> 00:17:26,597 I am releasing a new single every month, 396 00:17:26,700 --> 00:17:27,736 and I'm making videos. 397 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:31,533 OK. 398 00:17:33,086 --> 00:17:34,639 Whoa! 399 00:17:34,743 --> 00:17:37,573 I would love to see this on top of what you have on. 400 00:17:37,677 --> 00:17:40,335 They are normally 21, and today they're 15. 401 00:17:40,438 --> 00:17:42,406 I have my own lip gloss company. 402 00:17:42,509 --> 00:17:45,547 The glosses are named after rock 'n' roll icons. 403 00:17:45,650 --> 00:17:49,309 This is "Highway Star," which is a Deep Purple song. 404 00:17:49,413 --> 00:17:52,140 Ha-ha-ha. Get it? 405 00:17:52,243 --> 00:17:53,624 - What band were you in? - We were in Lunachicks. 406 00:17:53,727 --> 00:17:54,832 I was in Lunachicks. - Oh, my God! 407 00:17:54,935 --> 00:17:56,454 - The singer. - I love Lunachicks! 408 00:17:57,421 --> 00:17:58,594 So are you guys reuniting? 409 00:17:58,698 --> 00:18:00,217 No. 410 00:18:06,223 --> 00:18:08,639 People always ask us if we'll play again, 411 00:18:08,742 --> 00:18:11,469 so every once in a while, it comes up, 412 00:18:11,573 --> 00:18:15,094 but we haven't played together in a very long time. 413 00:18:17,958 --> 00:18:21,410 I had all the girls up to my country house, 414 00:18:21,514 --> 00:18:23,205 and then as we were all sitting there, 415 00:18:23,309 --> 00:18:25,380 I did bring it up, like, 416 00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:28,866 "We really need to do one more show." 417 00:18:33,457 --> 00:18:36,080 And they were all like, "What?" 418 00:18:36,184 --> 00:18:37,944 We could do, like, seven or eight shows. 419 00:18:38,047 --> 00:18:39,290 Seven or eight? 420 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,258 Uh-oh! Wheels are turning. Wheels are turning. 421 00:18:41,361 --> 00:18:42,776 - Um... - Oh! 422 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,640 Maybe we could get Depends to sponsor us. 423 00:18:45,917 --> 00:18:47,126 I still record music, 424 00:18:47,229 --> 00:18:48,713 I write songs, 425 00:18:48,817 --> 00:18:52,476 but I haven't been in front of an audience in years. 426 00:18:52,579 --> 00:18:54,063 I feel like I'm gonna pass out. 427 00:18:55,893 --> 00:18:58,309 Do I want to, you know, hang out with my girls again? 428 00:18:58,413 --> 00:19:00,173 Yeah, that would be great. 429 00:19:00,277 --> 00:19:02,037 Um, being on stage? 430 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:03,694 I--it would be fun. 431 00:19:05,523 --> 00:19:08,940 But there's a lot of history there. 432 00:19:09,044 --> 00:19:10,735 We normally play in New York at... 433 00:19:10,839 --> 00:19:13,531 - CBGB's, Pyramid. - The Ritz when we can. 434 00:19:13,635 --> 00:19:14,981 The Ritz when we can. We used to-- 435 00:19:15,084 --> 00:19:16,707 Sonic Youth was producing us 436 00:19:16,810 --> 00:19:19,054 for Blast First Records, 437 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:21,815 which was their English record label. 438 00:19:21,919 --> 00:19:22,816 But it wasn't going well. 439 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:23,921 Is it on? 440 00:19:24,024 --> 00:19:25,025 It didn't really work out 441 00:19:25,129 --> 00:19:26,958 because of the artistic differences, 442 00:19:27,062 --> 00:19:28,891 which is unfortunate. 443 00:19:28,995 --> 00:19:30,790 ♪ Distract you, where to 444 00:19:30,893 --> 00:19:33,655 We sort of had a souring in the studio 445 00:19:33,758 --> 00:19:37,245 because the Lunachicks were way too obnoxious 446 00:19:37,348 --> 00:19:39,626 to work with at that point. 447 00:19:41,041 --> 00:19:43,596 I think that Kim and Thurston were attracted 448 00:19:43,699 --> 00:19:47,600 by the fact that we were very young and we were amateurs. 449 00:19:47,703 --> 00:19:49,326 But we didn't want to be amateurs. 450 00:19:49,429 --> 00:19:52,018 We really wanted to be rock stars. 451 00:19:52,121 --> 00:19:56,471 So they wanted to bring out the badly played chords 452 00:19:56,574 --> 00:19:59,439 or the broken distortion pedal sound, 453 00:19:59,543 --> 00:20:02,891 and we were really kind of embarrassed by that stuff. 454 00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:05,997 I mean, my hero was AC/DC Angus Young 455 00:20:06,101 --> 00:20:07,654 and Tony Iommi. 456 00:20:07,758 --> 00:20:11,417 We really wanted to be, like, heavy rock gods. 457 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,660 I mean, we wanted to sound like KISS. 458 00:20:13,764 --> 00:20:16,215 And that was not her vision for us. 459 00:20:16,318 --> 00:20:20,080 So we were snotty, and Kim stormed out, 460 00:20:20,184 --> 00:20:22,117 but the label already had invested 461 00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:23,636 a couple bucks into the recording. 462 00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:26,017 They thought it was worth something. 463 00:20:26,121 --> 00:20:27,260 So we stayed with the label, 464 00:20:27,364 --> 00:20:29,987 and we scrambled to get a girl drummer. 465 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:32,231 We found out about Becky Wreck, 466 00:20:32,334 --> 00:20:34,681 this crazy drummer girl from Philly. 467 00:20:34,785 --> 00:20:37,132 She rolled into town on this motorcycle, 468 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:40,100 and she was super queer and super cute 469 00:20:40,204 --> 00:20:42,655 and, like, a great drummer. 470 00:20:42,758 --> 00:20:45,244 She was a strong character. 471 00:20:45,347 --> 00:20:47,280 So we thought, she'll be perfect. 472 00:20:47,384 --> 00:20:49,662 ♪ Popping wheelies on her motorbike ♪ 473 00:20:49,765 --> 00:20:52,423 ♪ Straight girls wish they were dykes ♪ 474 00:20:52,527 --> 00:20:55,081 I wrote the lyrics for the L7 song 475 00:20:55,184 --> 00:20:56,255 "Fast and Frightening." 476 00:20:56,358 --> 00:20:58,498 "Popping wheelies on her motorbike, 477 00:20:58,602 --> 00:21:00,776 straight girls wish they were dykes," 478 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,469 is specifically about Becky Wreck. 479 00:21:03,572 --> 00:21:06,299 ♪ She's frightening 480 00:21:06,403 --> 00:21:08,508 This is how we found out about L7, 481 00:21:08,612 --> 00:21:10,924 because Becky had also 482 00:21:11,028 --> 00:21:12,443 been contacted by L7, who was looking for a drummer. 483 00:21:12,547 --> 00:21:14,514 So we were both making her offers 484 00:21:14,618 --> 00:21:16,585 and fighting over her, trying to get her. 485 00:21:16,689 --> 00:21:20,417 When we met Becky, we were blown away by her. 486 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,798 And we were like, "We're getting Becky. 487 00:21:22,902 --> 00:21:24,731 "How do we get her? 488 00:21:24,835 --> 00:21:27,320 How do we steal her and get her to move to LA?" 489 00:21:27,424 --> 00:21:28,528 And then she said, 490 00:21:28,632 --> 00:21:30,047 "No, I'm dedicated to the Lunachicks. 491 00:21:30,150 --> 00:21:31,290 I'm gonna stay out here." 492 00:21:31,393 --> 00:21:33,395 And we were brokenhearted. 493 00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:37,365 The Lunachicks were funny, 494 00:21:37,468 --> 00:21:40,057 super smart hot chicks-- 495 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,404 young, crazy to be around. 496 00:21:42,508 --> 00:21:43,923 So much fun to be around. 497 00:21:44,026 --> 00:21:46,270 I felt like I have a chance to be a part of something 498 00:21:46,374 --> 00:21:48,686 that nobody knows about yet. 499 00:21:48,790 --> 00:21:50,309 I think I knew I could put them on the map. 500 00:21:50,412 --> 00:21:51,862 I think I really knew that. 501 00:21:51,965 --> 00:21:54,658 At an early age, I knew women do not 502 00:21:54,761 --> 00:21:55,866 get treated the same as men. 503 00:21:55,969 --> 00:21:57,177 Like, something's wrong. 504 00:21:57,281 --> 00:21:58,524 In third grade, when they ask us 505 00:21:58,627 --> 00:22:00,836 if you want to play an instrument at school, 506 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:03,183 I said, I want to play drums, and everybody, 507 00:22:03,287 --> 00:22:04,392 "Why do you-- girls don't do that! 508 00:22:04,495 --> 00:22:05,289 Why do you want to do that?" 509 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:06,601 So I had to go home. 510 00:22:06,704 --> 00:22:08,603 I had to have my mom sign a form, which was-- 511 00:22:08,706 --> 00:22:10,363 she made me put flute first. 512 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:11,882 My teenage years-- 513 00:22:11,985 --> 00:22:13,608 already feeling like, I'm a woman, 514 00:22:13,711 --> 00:22:15,057 I'm gonna get treated less than-- 515 00:22:15,161 --> 00:22:16,680 I realize, oh, my God, I'm gay. 516 00:22:16,783 --> 00:22:19,476 And that's--that's really bad. 517 00:22:19,579 --> 00:22:21,892 By then, I was really angry. 518 00:22:21,995 --> 00:22:22,893 I totally got into punk 519 00:22:22,996 --> 00:22:24,032 and rebelled against everything else. 520 00:22:24,135 --> 00:22:25,205 I just wanted to play as fast 521 00:22:25,309 --> 00:22:27,898 as the Dead Kennedys or Bad Brains. 522 00:22:28,001 --> 00:22:29,348 Nobody was even gonna take me serious 523 00:22:29,451 --> 00:22:31,004 if I was just halfway decent. 524 00:22:34,629 --> 00:22:36,700 Whatever it is that Sonic Youth saw, 525 00:22:36,803 --> 00:22:39,634 my playing was so hard and in your face, 526 00:22:39,737 --> 00:22:42,188 it was the glue that was gonna hold it 527 00:22:42,291 --> 00:22:43,569 and make it like, holy shit, 528 00:22:43,672 --> 00:22:45,156 there's something going on. 529 00:22:45,260 --> 00:22:47,607 Like, it's not just, like, in the beginning stages anymore. 530 00:22:47,711 --> 00:22:49,368 Like, this is something. 531 00:22:51,024 --> 00:22:54,959 ♪ Got a pus pocket waiting for you ♪ 532 00:22:55,063 --> 00:22:59,412 ♪ Got a flesh bubble from huffing too much glue ♪ 533 00:22:59,516 --> 00:23:02,726 ♪ I got a precious pimple loaded with some goo ♪ 534 00:23:02,829 --> 00:23:06,005 Early on, when Becky was trying to figure out 535 00:23:06,108 --> 00:23:08,525 whether she even wanted to be in our band, 536 00:23:08,628 --> 00:23:11,113 her and Syd started a relationship. 537 00:23:11,217 --> 00:23:14,047 That might have been why Becky ended up staying with us 538 00:23:14,151 --> 00:23:15,497 and not joining L7. 539 00:23:15,601 --> 00:23:17,050 That's my guess. 540 00:23:17,154 --> 00:23:18,604 It's always the girl. 541 00:23:20,226 --> 00:23:23,091 So me and Becky were a couple for a while, 542 00:23:23,194 --> 00:23:26,025 which pissed everybody off. 543 00:23:26,128 --> 00:23:28,165 I mean, who the hell wants to be in a band with a couple? 544 00:23:28,268 --> 00:23:29,477 Nobody. 545 00:23:30,339 --> 00:23:32,341 We did this four-song EP. 546 00:23:32,445 --> 00:23:33,722 We're 18. 547 00:23:33,826 --> 00:23:36,311 We get booked on this tour of the UK 548 00:23:36,415 --> 00:23:37,692 with Dinosaur Jr. 549 00:23:37,795 --> 00:23:40,004 We pack our bags and get on a plane, 550 00:23:40,108 --> 00:23:42,248 and it was on. 551 00:23:42,351 --> 00:23:44,250 ♪ Lunachicks on the run 552 00:23:44,353 --> 00:23:46,217 ♪ Lunachicks are having fun 553 00:23:46,321 --> 00:23:47,874 ♪ Lunachicks make lots of noise ♪ 554 00:23:47,978 --> 00:23:50,290 ♪ To prove rock 'n' roll's not just for boys ♪ 555 00:23:50,394 --> 00:23:51,775 ♪ On the road and on the rag 556 00:23:51,878 --> 00:23:53,777 ♪ We fucking rule so we gotta brag ♪ 557 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,572 ♪ Gonna take over the world someday ♪ 558 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:58,885 ♪ Stay off our path or get out of the way ♪ 559 00:23:58,989 --> 00:24:01,612 Our first tour was when we learned 560 00:24:01,716 --> 00:24:04,028 to be together-- in hotel rooms, 561 00:24:04,132 --> 00:24:06,790 in people's houses, in the van. 562 00:24:06,893 --> 00:24:09,102 So many hours in the van. 563 00:24:09,206 --> 00:24:11,484 I remember thinking, 564 00:24:11,588 --> 00:24:12,796 this is what it is? 565 00:24:12,899 --> 00:24:14,798 I mean, this is how it's gonna be? 566 00:24:14,901 --> 00:24:16,006 This is it? 567 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:17,559 ♪ This is serious 568 00:24:17,663 --> 00:24:19,354 Peeing in the parking lot. 569 00:24:19,458 --> 00:24:21,252 Peeing everywhere. 570 00:24:21,356 --> 00:24:25,360 Theo was unarguably the master of peeing in a cup. 571 00:24:25,464 --> 00:24:26,603 Periods. 572 00:24:26,706 --> 00:24:28,708 We would all get on the same schedule. 573 00:24:28,812 --> 00:24:30,538 Hormones. Not cute. 574 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:32,298 ♪ Step off 575 00:24:32,401 --> 00:24:33,817 Of course, tons of snacks. 576 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,820 We were teenagers, and we would get somewhere 577 00:24:36,923 --> 00:24:39,443 and immediately want to go to wherever there was candy 578 00:24:39,547 --> 00:24:41,480 and try whatever we could. 579 00:24:41,583 --> 00:24:43,205 It was like Willy Wonka going in and finding 580 00:24:43,309 --> 00:24:44,931 these candies you had never seen before 581 00:24:45,035 --> 00:24:48,176 that were so beautiful and, like, pink and gummies. 582 00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,419 And it was incredible. 583 00:24:52,939 --> 00:24:55,424 We had to stop sometimes at two or three borders 584 00:24:55,528 --> 00:24:58,220 in a single day, and there was no 585 00:24:58,324 --> 00:25:00,360 being waved through borders for the Lunachicks. 586 00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:03,432 No border said, "You guys are all right. 587 00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:05,124 Keep driving." 588 00:25:05,227 --> 00:25:07,402 We're driving around with a rubber chicken 589 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:11,820 and giant flies and big plastic bones. 590 00:25:11,924 --> 00:25:14,789 And we were searched regularly. 591 00:25:14,892 --> 00:25:17,516 Sometimes dogs, sometimes no dogs, 592 00:25:17,619 --> 00:25:20,449 although we did also have border guards 593 00:25:20,553 --> 00:25:23,452 that then we put on the guest list. 594 00:25:23,556 --> 00:25:25,903 Early on, it was all fun. 595 00:25:26,007 --> 00:25:28,734 We were the best of friends. 596 00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:30,805 Right, uh, after that little historical note, 597 00:25:30,908 --> 00:25:32,185 to the Lunachicks and first from them 598 00:25:32,289 --> 00:25:35,706 in session tonight, "Binge and Purge." 599 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:38,467 We were on Blast First for only one album. 600 00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:41,781 We recorded "Binge and Purge" on an American label. 601 00:25:41,885 --> 00:25:45,992 ♪ Binge and purge 602 00:25:46,096 --> 00:25:48,374 We went on our first American tour 603 00:25:48,477 --> 00:25:50,134 opening up for the Dictators. 604 00:25:50,238 --> 00:25:52,205 It was called the Chicks 'n' Dicks tour. 605 00:25:52,309 --> 00:25:55,346 Dictators have passed the punk rock baton 606 00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:56,727 to The Lunachicks. 607 00:25:56,831 --> 00:25:58,246 Have you known each other for a while or what? 608 00:25:58,349 --> 00:25:59,385 Some of us did. 609 00:25:59,488 --> 00:26:01,421 From hangin' around downtown. 610 00:26:01,525 --> 00:26:03,216 And, uh, that's how we met. 611 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,217 In the street. 612 00:26:05,943 --> 00:26:07,600 We want to know about the Lunachicks. 613 00:26:07,704 --> 00:26:10,016 We had a name for ourselves in England, 614 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:14,400 but in America, we were a very underground band. 615 00:26:14,503 --> 00:26:16,402 We were playing small venues. 616 00:26:16,505 --> 00:26:17,748 This was punk rock. 617 00:26:17,852 --> 00:26:19,370 This was total punk rock. 618 00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:28,448 ♪ Cuttin' in the bathroom, waiting for that bell ♪ 619 00:26:28,552 --> 00:26:30,243 ♪ They say its high school, but I think its hell ♪ 620 00:26:30,347 --> 00:26:31,486 ♪ Puffin' a joint 621 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,971 I'm Jewish, but I grew up in New York, 622 00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:35,870 and I thought, like, everybody was Jewish. 623 00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:38,286 And then we started touring in the United States, 624 00:26:38,389 --> 00:26:41,565 and they're like, "Wow, it's a real live Jew!" 625 00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:43,084 So the obvious thing to do would just be 626 00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:46,087 to write Jew on your face as big as you could, 627 00:26:46,190 --> 00:26:48,434 especially if you were playing with Social Distortion 628 00:26:48,537 --> 00:26:49,608 and there was gonna be, like, 629 00:26:49,711 --> 00:26:52,783 a thousand racist skinheads there. 630 00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:54,716 Back then, guys would just take over 631 00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:56,235 and slam into everybody, 632 00:26:56,338 --> 00:26:58,996 and the girls would get stomped or pushed around, 633 00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:02,655 grabbed, groped, molested by the audience. 634 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:04,519 That's not OK-- you can't fuckin do that, 635 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,072 especially not at one of our shows. 636 00:27:07,902 --> 00:27:11,215 Girls and young women could be at the front, 637 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,943 be in the center, express themselves, dance, 638 00:27:15,047 --> 00:27:17,325 and know that we were looking out for them. 639 00:27:17,428 --> 00:27:19,948 Theo would stop the show 640 00:27:20,052 --> 00:27:21,570 if she saw something out of line. 641 00:27:21,674 --> 00:27:23,607 Those were our girls. 642 00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,298 Stop, stop, stop, stop! 643 00:27:25,402 --> 00:27:27,162 Stop! Stop! 644 00:27:27,266 --> 00:27:29,544 What the fuck are you doing, asshole? 645 00:27:31,822 --> 00:27:34,031 Just cut it out. 646 00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:41,452 You are obviously bothering these women a lot, okay? 647 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,289 Everything was always centered around Becky. 648 00:27:50,392 --> 00:27:52,394 Just picture, like, the Tasmanian devil 649 00:27:52,498 --> 00:27:54,396 with a whirlwind around her. 650 00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:57,503 She did her whole Howard Stern thing. 651 00:27:57,606 --> 00:27:59,091 Come on out, Becky. 652 00:27:59,194 --> 00:28:00,851 - Becky Wreck! - Becky Wreck here. She is-- 653 00:28:00,955 --> 00:28:03,129 Howard Stern had a cable show. 654 00:28:03,233 --> 00:28:05,373 He was, like, probably the number one 655 00:28:05,476 --> 00:28:07,099 shock jock in New York. 656 00:28:07,202 --> 00:28:10,689 And I went on a lot because--whatever. 657 00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:14,589 I was willing to kiss girls on TV. 658 00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:15,797 All the women go wild for you. 659 00:28:15,901 --> 00:28:18,248 Isn't that true? - Yeah. 660 00:28:18,351 --> 00:28:20,629 All this notoriety happened after that. 661 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:21,596 So we'd be at the airport-- it'd be like, 662 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,874 "Oh, Howard Stern!" 663 00:28:23,978 --> 00:28:26,152 A lot of the fighting and the drama 664 00:28:26,256 --> 00:28:29,777 had to do with the fact that we were a couple. 665 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,710 Syd was my best friend. 666 00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:33,988 We did everything together. 667 00:28:34,091 --> 00:28:36,956 I was the voice of reason. 668 00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:40,373 You know, the older and wiser. 669 00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:42,065 And then along came Becky, 670 00:28:42,168 --> 00:28:45,654 and she snatches my bestie 671 00:28:45,758 --> 00:28:48,934 and turns her into, like, somebody else. 672 00:28:49,037 --> 00:28:50,970 So we were a little bit at odds. 673 00:28:51,074 --> 00:28:51,937 Not a little bit at odds. 674 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,664 We were--we had some issues. 675 00:28:55,768 --> 00:28:57,045 I think, by far, 676 00:28:57,149 --> 00:28:59,668 Sindi was, like, the toughest Lunachick. 677 00:28:59,772 --> 00:29:01,740 Maybe she felt like I was competition. 678 00:29:01,843 --> 00:29:03,776 But I just felt like, fuck, she's badass. 679 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,813 Like, yeah, we're on the same team. 680 00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:09,402 The feelings across the board 681 00:29:09,506 --> 00:29:11,750 were always intense. 682 00:29:11,853 --> 00:29:14,131 We were playing this show in England. 683 00:29:14,235 --> 00:29:16,099 There was, like, a huge mosh pit. 684 00:29:16,202 --> 00:29:19,585 Sindi dumps her guitar and dives into the audience. 685 00:29:19,688 --> 00:29:22,484 I dove into the crowd. 686 00:29:22,588 --> 00:29:24,832 It took about two seconds, 687 00:29:24,935 --> 00:29:27,696 and I was, like, fucking naked. 688 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,769 The clothes were gone. 689 00:29:30,872 --> 00:29:32,598 I saw her shirt come ripped up like this 690 00:29:32,701 --> 00:29:35,325 and hands on her, and I freaked out, 691 00:29:35,428 --> 00:29:37,189 and I stopped playing, and I ran over, 692 00:29:37,292 --> 00:29:39,501 and we're trying to get security 693 00:29:39,605 --> 00:29:42,608 to get her back to the stage and get her safe, 694 00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:43,816 'cause I saw the look on her face. 695 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,887 She was horrified. 696 00:29:45,991 --> 00:29:48,994 But I think she felt like she had to play it off. 697 00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:53,308 And her being tough about it confused me. 698 00:29:53,412 --> 00:29:55,345 Becky got furious. 699 00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:57,623 She got furious at me. 700 00:29:57,726 --> 00:30:02,524 I understand that she maybe felt violated herself somehow. 701 00:30:02,628 --> 00:30:05,734 But it was really not cool. 702 00:30:05,838 --> 00:30:08,358 The last thing she needed was someone to yell at her. 703 00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:10,222 But I was only coming from, like, 704 00:30:10,325 --> 00:30:12,017 "You did something where we can't protect you. 705 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,535 Don't ever do that," you know. 706 00:30:13,639 --> 00:30:15,468 Like, that's kind of how I felt. 707 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:20,370 You know, that was really fucked up that that happened. 708 00:30:22,682 --> 00:30:23,891 I can--I--I-- 709 00:30:23,994 --> 00:30:26,272 you know, I can still see it. 710 00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:28,447 And it was, like-- it was really fucked up. 711 00:30:30,932 --> 00:30:33,141 You still wanna bother people, meet us outside. 712 00:30:33,245 --> 00:30:35,247 Me and every single fucking girl in this place, 713 00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:37,766 and we'll fuckin stomp your ass off. 714 00:30:53,644 --> 00:30:55,646 ♪ Your crotch is burning 715 00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:58,028 ♪ Well, ain't that a shame 716 00:30:58,132 --> 00:31:03,033 ♪ Too bad that I'm not the one to blame ♪ 717 00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:05,104 ♪ Take this 718 00:31:05,208 --> 00:31:08,073 ♪ Take that, take that 719 00:31:08,176 --> 00:31:13,216 ♪ But no one is ever gonna take my fucking rights back ♪ 720 00:31:15,114 --> 00:31:21,880 ♪ Don't touch me in the streets, no ♪ 721 00:31:21,983 --> 00:31:23,571 We were going to play Reading Festival. 722 00:31:23,674 --> 00:31:25,124 It was fucking exciting. 723 00:31:25,228 --> 00:31:26,988 ♪ Chicks are super strong 724 00:31:27,092 --> 00:31:28,058 We were like, 725 00:31:28,162 --> 00:31:29,818 "Becky you can't take any drugs over." 726 00:31:31,441 --> 00:31:32,994 They would say, "This is when we're leaving. 727 00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:34,513 "You better clean up. 728 00:31:34,616 --> 00:31:36,722 Plenty of time to get your shit together, Becky." 729 00:31:36,825 --> 00:31:38,241 And I, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." 730 00:31:38,344 --> 00:31:41,140 And no, no, no, 'cause I had a ten-bag-a-day heroin habit. 731 00:31:44,281 --> 00:31:46,559 Reading Festival was a huge deal, 732 00:31:46,663 --> 00:31:48,527 and Nirvana was playing. 733 00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:52,151 Nirvana was on Sub Pop, and then they broke. 734 00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:56,466 And the industry realized you can have punk-based music 735 00:31:56,569 --> 00:32:00,090 be commercially successful as well. 736 00:32:00,194 --> 00:32:02,506 There were very high expectations on everybody 737 00:32:02,610 --> 00:32:06,096 from the underground because Nirvana did so gangbusters. 738 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,443 But it was really kind of a cool era 739 00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:10,169 because there were a lot of female bands 740 00:32:10,273 --> 00:32:12,758 playing aggressive rock. 741 00:32:12,861 --> 00:32:14,898 Us, The Breeders, Lunachicks, 742 00:32:15,002 --> 00:32:16,900 7 Year Bitch, Babes in Toyland, 743 00:32:17,004 --> 00:32:18,937 and later Riot Grrrl. 744 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,904 We were all kind of banded together, 745 00:32:21,008 --> 00:32:22,768 I think, in supporting each other. 746 00:32:24,666 --> 00:32:27,083 We have been thinking about playing a show. 747 00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:28,463 Stop thinking, 748 00:32:28,567 --> 00:32:31,397 because thinking has never helped. 749 00:32:31,501 --> 00:32:34,090 You just go do what you're built to go do. 750 00:32:34,193 --> 00:32:37,196 Even if you don't physically do something, 751 00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,992 your spirit or soul or subconscious 752 00:32:40,096 --> 00:32:42,615 is still doing it, because you're made to do it, 753 00:32:42,719 --> 00:32:45,549 and you will walk on like you had never left 754 00:32:45,653 --> 00:32:47,793 and do what you're built to do. - Yeah. 755 00:32:47,896 --> 00:32:51,348 I think that the time is now for a Lunachicks reunion. 756 00:32:53,212 --> 00:32:56,077 We did sell out Irving Plaza, remember? 757 00:32:56,181 --> 00:32:57,458 That was such a fun show. 758 00:32:57,561 --> 00:32:59,736 We could play a show in the next six months 759 00:32:59,839 --> 00:33:02,670 or whenever we wanted to, if we were gonna do, like, 760 00:33:02,773 --> 00:33:06,674 you know, like, just, like, New York or LA 761 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:08,124 or, you know, whatever. 762 00:33:08,227 --> 00:33:10,402 Like, we can--I don't think we'd need a whole year. 763 00:33:10,505 --> 00:33:12,818 I want to wait as long as possible. 764 00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:14,785 I gotta mentally prepare. 765 00:33:14,889 --> 00:33:16,787 I gotta physically prepare. 766 00:33:16,891 --> 00:33:20,412 Um, I don't know. I don't know. 767 00:33:20,515 --> 00:33:24,381 I mean, I don't see my life slowing down at all. 768 00:33:24,485 --> 00:33:28,351 So I just feel like there's never gonna be a good time. 769 00:33:28,454 --> 00:33:31,975 It seems like every '90s band is on tour, 770 00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,391 so... everybody's doing it. 771 00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:37,153 ♪ The ice is on fire, Antarctica burns ♪ 772 00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:38,982 All I remember about the Lunachicks 773 00:33:39,086 --> 00:33:40,846 is that every time I saw them, 774 00:33:40,949 --> 00:33:45,126 I was high on LSD, blackout drunk, 775 00:33:45,230 --> 00:33:46,127 and they were good-looking girls 776 00:33:46,231 --> 00:33:47,680 until they got on stage, 777 00:33:47,784 --> 00:33:49,717 and then they turned into a bunch of old ladies. 778 00:33:51,339 --> 00:33:52,720 Is that Gina Volpe? 779 00:33:56,137 --> 00:33:58,622 You guys played with GWAR a lot. 780 00:33:58,726 --> 00:34:02,419 The Lunachicks were more than a band. 781 00:34:02,523 --> 00:34:04,697 It was a gang. 782 00:34:04,801 --> 00:34:06,492 Like, it was-- 783 00:34:06,596 --> 00:34:08,391 I can't remember what it was, but you were like, 784 00:34:08,494 --> 00:34:10,910 "You can't tie a Lunachick down!" 785 00:34:11,014 --> 00:34:12,360 You're not talking about regular girls, 786 00:34:12,464 --> 00:34:13,706 these are Lunachicks here! 787 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:15,260 You can't tie me down! 788 00:34:15,363 --> 00:34:17,193 You can't tie down a Lunachick. 789 00:34:17,296 --> 00:34:19,712 You gotta be free. 790 00:34:19,816 --> 00:34:22,198 I remember the time GWAR was on "The Joan Rivers Show." 791 00:34:22,301 --> 00:34:23,647 You know, the Lunachicks are in it. 792 00:34:23,751 --> 00:34:24,614 We're in the front row. 793 00:34:24,717 --> 00:34:26,409 Yeah, "Yay!" Cheering. 794 00:34:26,512 --> 00:34:28,997 As Oderus Urungus, lead singer of GWAR... 795 00:34:29,101 --> 00:34:33,588 Dave Brockie, rest his soul, he was a huge Lunachicks fan. 796 00:34:33,692 --> 00:34:35,659 We were banished here to serve eternal penance. 797 00:34:35,763 --> 00:34:38,214 We would tour with GWAR, and by then, 798 00:34:38,317 --> 00:34:40,147 Syd was dating Oderus, the singer. 799 00:34:40,250 --> 00:34:41,493 I was very jealous, 800 00:34:41,596 --> 00:34:43,978 so I was starting shit with him. 801 00:34:44,082 --> 00:34:47,223 The only thing more fun than being in a band with a couple 802 00:34:47,326 --> 00:34:48,638 is being in a band with a couple 803 00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:49,880 who's breaking up. 804 00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,469 It got so dark. 805 00:34:52,573 --> 00:34:55,645 There was this cloud of, like, anger and bad energy, 806 00:34:55,748 --> 00:34:57,129 and the drugs got worse, 807 00:34:57,233 --> 00:34:59,649 and they were a mess, and it was--it was toxic. 808 00:35:00,788 --> 00:35:02,790 I thought all their good ways, 809 00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:05,344 I was hoping that it would rub off on me. 810 00:35:05,448 --> 00:35:07,105 I really, really was. 811 00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:08,899 But that's not what happened. 812 00:35:09,003 --> 00:35:10,280 I was doing heroin. 813 00:35:10,384 --> 00:35:11,868 Nothing was more important to me than doing heroin. 814 00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:17,080 The final show with her was with Murphy's Law, 815 00:35:17,184 --> 00:35:18,357 and it was Halloween. 816 00:35:18,461 --> 00:35:19,945 We all wore, like, bald wigs 817 00:35:20,048 --> 00:35:22,430 and mustaches and plaid suits, 818 00:35:22,534 --> 00:35:24,329 and she was so high that it was, like, 819 00:35:24,432 --> 00:35:25,951 in slow motion, you know? 820 00:35:26,054 --> 00:35:27,815 So that was kind of it. 821 00:35:27,918 --> 00:35:29,541 Either they kicked me out or I quit 822 00:35:29,644 --> 00:35:31,405 and then thought they'd ask me back, 823 00:35:31,508 --> 00:35:33,200 but they probably kicked me out. 824 00:35:33,303 --> 00:35:34,580 And I--and I probably thought, 825 00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:36,134 "Ha, what are they gonna do without me?" 826 00:35:36,237 --> 00:35:38,722 Well, they did a lot without me, so... 827 00:35:40,414 --> 00:35:42,209 Then we took our friend Kate Schellenbach, 828 00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:44,211 who is in Luscious Jackson, 829 00:35:44,314 --> 00:35:46,661 we took her out for a tour. 830 00:35:50,562 --> 00:35:52,805 I got a call from one of the Lunachicks 831 00:35:52,909 --> 00:35:55,394 saying that they were doing a tour of North America. 832 00:35:55,498 --> 00:35:56,533 "Can you play drums for us?" 833 00:35:56,637 --> 00:35:58,052 And I was like, "Oh, my God, yes." 834 00:35:58,156 --> 00:35:59,191 I was so psyched. 835 00:35:59,295 --> 00:36:00,951 It was like being asked to play drums 836 00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:02,125 for, like, your favorite band. 837 00:36:02,229 --> 00:36:03,471 It was like, so fucking cool. 838 00:36:03,575 --> 00:36:05,266 Hey, Marsha, that was really groovy. 839 00:36:05,370 --> 00:36:07,165 I first heard the Lunachicks 840 00:36:07,268 --> 00:36:08,856 when there was some college radio station 841 00:36:08,959 --> 00:36:10,444 playing "Jan Brady," 842 00:36:10,547 --> 00:36:12,308 and I was like, what the fuck is this? 843 00:36:12,411 --> 00:36:15,932 ♪ Well, I am Jan Brady 844 00:36:16,035 --> 00:36:18,728 I was obsessed, played it, like, nonstop. 845 00:36:18,831 --> 00:36:21,317 Then they were playing a show at Pyramid. 846 00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,457 They came out-- they said Theo was killed 847 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,424 and that she wasn't gonna be performing tonight 848 00:36:25,528 --> 00:36:28,358 'cause she was killed by Nadia Comaneci, the gymnast. 849 00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,015 I would like a really warm welcome 850 00:36:30,118 --> 00:36:31,741 for Mrs. Nadia Comaneci. 851 00:36:31,844 --> 00:36:34,088 And so out came Nadia Comaneci, 852 00:36:34,192 --> 00:36:35,883 which was Theo in, like, pigtails 853 00:36:35,986 --> 00:36:37,264 and, like, a tracksuit. 854 00:36:38,023 --> 00:36:39,887 I am very happy to be here. 855 00:36:44,063 --> 00:36:46,894 Makin' It With Other Species 856 00:36:49,276 --> 00:36:50,725 They fuckin' rocked. 857 00:36:50,829 --> 00:36:53,625 I was so thrilled and so pumped. 858 00:36:53,728 --> 00:36:56,006 Once I saw them, everything changed. 859 00:36:56,110 --> 00:36:57,870 I swear, if I hadn't heard them, 860 00:36:57,974 --> 00:36:59,596 there probably would not have been Luscious Jackson 861 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:02,185 in the form that it was, so it really was 862 00:37:02,289 --> 00:37:04,083 a huge, huge thing for me. 863 00:37:11,332 --> 00:37:14,266 ♪ Pick, pick, pick, it's makin' me sick ♪ 864 00:37:14,370 --> 00:37:16,475 ♪ I wish the sleep fairy would come do the trick ♪ 865 00:37:16,579 --> 00:37:21,618 ♪ Oh, yeah, oh, yeah 866 00:37:21,722 --> 00:37:23,931 Back then, there's no Internet. 867 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:26,589 There's no social media. 868 00:37:26,692 --> 00:37:29,212 The only way to let people know you had a show, 869 00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:31,179 you had to make a flyer 870 00:37:31,283 --> 00:37:33,837 and paste it all over the city. 871 00:37:33,941 --> 00:37:35,494 And then when you were on tour, 872 00:37:35,598 --> 00:37:37,738 you would start organizing street teams. 873 00:37:37,841 --> 00:37:40,499 And these are just dedicated fans who'd hand out fliers 874 00:37:40,603 --> 00:37:42,294 and tell people about your shows. 875 00:37:42,398 --> 00:37:43,606 ♪ Toss and turn, toss and turn ♪ 876 00:37:43,709 --> 00:37:46,436 Being an all-female act from New York 877 00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:50,682 was a novelty and made people take notice. 878 00:37:50,785 --> 00:37:54,306 You have to then keep them looking and listening. 879 00:37:54,410 --> 00:37:56,860 And that we were able to do on our own merit. 880 00:38:02,003 --> 00:38:04,868 It was so much fun touring with Kate. 881 00:38:04,972 --> 00:38:06,939 But she needed to play with Luscious Jackson, 882 00:38:07,043 --> 00:38:09,425 so we knew it was temporary. 883 00:38:09,528 --> 00:38:11,703 We found ourselves two albums in, 884 00:38:11,806 --> 00:38:14,395 and a few years now down the road, 885 00:38:14,499 --> 00:38:15,534 we were looking for a label. 886 00:38:15,638 --> 00:38:16,673 We didn't have a manager. 887 00:38:16,777 --> 00:38:18,088 We were looking for a drummer. 888 00:38:19,987 --> 00:38:21,471 We met Chip the first time 889 00:38:21,575 --> 00:38:23,646 we were looking for drummers before Becky, 890 00:38:23,749 --> 00:38:26,062 and we thought she was so cool, 891 00:38:26,165 --> 00:38:29,962 and we wanted her to be in the band, 892 00:38:30,066 --> 00:38:32,758 and she said no. 893 00:38:32,862 --> 00:38:36,417 I'm from a small town in Pennsylvania. 894 00:38:36,521 --> 00:38:38,730 In kindergarten, they offered 895 00:38:38,833 --> 00:38:41,077 musical instruments to everybody. 896 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:42,458 So I went, "I'm playing the drums! 897 00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:43,976 That's what I want to do." 898 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,704 And the teacher would always hand the drums to the boys. 899 00:38:47,808 --> 00:38:50,742 So I was like, "Why--why can't I be handed the drums?" 900 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,333 Being gay and not out in Pennsylvania 901 00:38:55,436 --> 00:38:59,026 at the age of 13, 14, 15, 16, 902 00:38:59,129 --> 00:39:00,510 I didn't like anybody. 903 00:39:00,614 --> 00:39:05,135 There was nobody to strive to be part of. 904 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,138 You know? I--I wanted better. 905 00:39:08,242 --> 00:39:11,003 And better was New York. 906 00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,973 I came upon Lunachicks early on. 907 00:39:15,076 --> 00:39:18,597 They were very young, and I auditioned for them, 908 00:39:18,701 --> 00:39:19,736 and they said, like, "Yeah, cool. 909 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,531 We want you as our drummer." 910 00:39:21,635 --> 00:39:25,639 So I called Squid to set up a rehearsal, 911 00:39:25,742 --> 00:39:27,779 and her dad answered the phone, 912 00:39:27,882 --> 00:39:29,401 and I said, "Yeah, is Squid there?" 913 00:39:29,505 --> 00:39:32,093 And you could tell he was yelling up the stairs, 914 00:39:32,197 --> 00:39:34,372 "Sydney, you have a phone call!" 915 00:39:34,475 --> 00:39:37,236 And I was like, "What the hell?" 916 00:39:37,340 --> 00:39:38,790 And I think I told them, it's like, 917 00:39:38,893 --> 00:39:40,274 "Oh, you know, look, I can't do this. 918 00:39:40,378 --> 00:39:42,414 I've got some other things going on." 919 00:39:42,518 --> 00:39:45,210 Years later, we just called her up and said, 920 00:39:45,313 --> 00:39:46,660 "Hey, we have a tour coming up. 921 00:39:46,763 --> 00:39:48,386 "Will you come on the tour with us, 922 00:39:48,489 --> 00:39:50,146 and we'll just see how it goes?'" 923 00:39:50,249 --> 00:39:52,942 So I went on tour with the Lunachicks to Europe, 924 00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:56,324 and it was the greatest fuckin' thing ever. 925 00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:59,120 ♪ Lookin' at you with your seven toes ♪ 926 00:39:59,224 --> 00:40:01,882 ♪ Always there when I'm tastin' the woes ♪ 927 00:40:01,985 --> 00:40:04,574 ♪ Your shit stinks worse than the rest ♪ 928 00:40:04,678 --> 00:40:06,921 ♪ But my honey, I think you're the best ♪ 929 00:40:07,025 --> 00:40:10,097 In England, there was one show 930 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,202 maybe two weeks into the tour 931 00:40:12,306 --> 00:40:14,481 where we're in a dressing room, 932 00:40:14,584 --> 00:40:16,966 and there was, like, a big glass mirror 933 00:40:17,069 --> 00:40:18,588 in the dressing room. 934 00:40:18,692 --> 00:40:21,004 After the gig, the girls are, like, 935 00:40:21,108 --> 00:40:23,938 stripped down naked-- you know, like, fhoosh-- 936 00:40:24,042 --> 00:40:26,320 and I'm looking at this mirror, 937 00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:28,322 and it didn't sit right with me. 938 00:40:28,426 --> 00:40:30,669 So I looked in the mirror, and it's like, 939 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:33,189 "That kind of seems like something's back behind that." 940 00:40:33,292 --> 00:40:36,019 And I went outside the door and I opened the door, 941 00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:37,296 and three guys came running 942 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,678 out of the door behind the wall. 943 00:40:39,782 --> 00:40:40,921 And I went in to the girls. 944 00:40:41,024 --> 00:40:44,649 I'm like, "There's a two-way mirror. 945 00:40:44,752 --> 00:40:46,823 This is a two-way mirror, you guys." 946 00:40:46,927 --> 00:40:48,480 So we realized that they were, like, 947 00:40:48,584 --> 00:40:52,760 watching us change, and we were so pissed. 948 00:40:52,864 --> 00:40:55,556 I just remember seeing the girls 949 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:58,283 having, like, a look on their face of just being, 950 00:40:58,386 --> 00:41:01,666 you know, like, violated, 951 00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:04,945 and that struck a thing in me. 952 00:41:05,048 --> 00:41:09,190 So all hell broke loose, and Chip was right there, 953 00:41:09,294 --> 00:41:12,262 ready to beat the shit out of these guys. 954 00:41:12,366 --> 00:41:16,059 I took a chair, and I smashed it through the window. 955 00:41:16,163 --> 00:41:17,854 I did one of those things with the rungs of the chair. 956 00:41:17,958 --> 00:41:19,511 I just, like, went... 957 00:41:19,615 --> 00:41:23,619 And I started picking up lights, going, smash! 958 00:41:23,722 --> 00:41:25,552 I believe we were all wearing tutus. 959 00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:29,176 So we surrounded the owner in our tutus. 960 00:41:29,279 --> 00:41:33,042 "There's a two-way fucking mirror, you fucking assholes!" 961 00:41:33,145 --> 00:41:34,975 "What, what? No, no, no." 962 00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:37,080 And Squid's like, "Yeah, there's a two-way mirror!" 963 00:41:37,184 --> 00:41:40,152 They're like, "Well, what do you want us to do?" 964 00:41:40,256 --> 00:41:41,429 And Syd was like, 965 00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:42,983 "You take off your fucking pants!" 966 00:41:43,086 --> 00:41:45,848 And, like, made the guy pull his pants down. 967 00:41:47,194 --> 00:41:49,437 Imagine these demented Barbie dolls 968 00:41:49,541 --> 00:41:51,819 standing over you in tutus and, like, blacked out teeth, 969 00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:53,752 like, "Now you take off your pants!" 970 00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:55,340 We're all like, "Yeah!" 971 00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:57,135 And he did. He took his pants down. 972 00:41:57,238 --> 00:41:59,309 What is he gonna do? 973 00:41:59,413 --> 00:42:02,623 We reported it to some tabloid just to get the word out. 974 00:42:02,727 --> 00:42:05,143 Like, this is so wrong. 975 00:42:05,246 --> 00:42:08,871 But the next day after that, the band came to me 976 00:42:08,974 --> 00:42:13,392 saying, "We want you in the band. 977 00:42:13,496 --> 00:42:16,464 Do you think you could be our drummer?" 978 00:42:16,568 --> 00:42:18,881 And I was like, "Yeah, yeah." 979 00:42:18,984 --> 00:42:21,124 It's like, if that was my initiation, like... 980 00:42:21,228 --> 00:42:23,402 "We want you in the band. Just join the band. 981 00:42:23,506 --> 00:42:25,439 Come on, you're one of us." 982 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:27,165 So she did. 983 00:42:27,268 --> 00:42:29,961 ♪ Walk in front of a car at the mall ♪ 984 00:42:30,064 --> 00:42:32,377 ♪ Trip and fall in the hall 985 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,137 ♪ Smash your head against the wall ♪ 986 00:42:34,241 --> 00:42:37,693 ♪ You want to die, I can see it in your eyes ♪ 987 00:42:37,796 --> 00:42:40,109 ♪ Rob a bank, tip the boat, sell yourself ♪ 988 00:42:40,212 --> 00:42:41,144 ♪ Break the law 989 00:42:43,491 --> 00:42:47,357 ♪ I like you better 990 00:42:47,461 --> 00:42:50,706 When Chip joined the band, we became tighter, faster. 991 00:42:50,809 --> 00:42:54,261 We had kind of reached a new level. 992 00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:59,542 It really became the machine that it was meant to be. 993 00:42:59,646 --> 00:43:00,819 We were looking for a label, 994 00:43:00,923 --> 00:43:02,614 and we met with Go Kart, 995 00:43:02,718 --> 00:43:04,616 and they were just starting out. 996 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,584 Greg basically said to us, 997 00:43:06,687 --> 00:43:09,621 "Because I'm new at this and eager, 998 00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:12,072 I'm gonna make everything about you guys." 999 00:43:12,175 --> 00:43:14,074 And he did. 1000 00:43:14,177 --> 00:43:17,077 He put all of his time, energy, and money into 1001 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:19,666 getting "Jerk Of All Trades" up and running. 1002 00:43:19,769 --> 00:43:20,908 - ♪ She can dance - ♪ She can sing 1003 00:43:21,012 --> 00:43:22,220 both: ♪ She can do most anything 1004 00:43:22,323 --> 00:43:24,809 ♪ She is the jerk, the jerk of all trades ♪ 1005 00:43:24,912 --> 00:43:26,051 - ♪ She can build - ♪ She can fight 1006 00:43:26,155 --> 00:43:27,570 both: ♪ She can bust out your light 1007 00:43:27,674 --> 00:43:29,814 ♪ She is the jerk, the jerk of all trades ♪ 1008 00:43:29,917 --> 00:43:31,022 ♪ Never, ever 1009 00:43:31,125 --> 00:43:32,437 There are songs on "Jerk Of All Trades" 1010 00:43:32,540 --> 00:43:35,578 that so summed up that time and feeling and power. 1011 00:43:35,682 --> 00:43:37,684 And we were like a gang or an army, 1012 00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:39,996 or we were on this mission. 1013 00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:42,447 No one ever fucked with us. 1014 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:46,382 And if they did, we always won. 1015 00:43:46,485 --> 00:43:47,763 That's it! I got a gun. 1016 00:43:47,866 --> 00:43:50,006 Everybody hit the deck, or the nun gets it! 1017 00:43:50,110 --> 00:43:52,422 None of them took any shit from anybody in the audience, 1018 00:43:52,526 --> 00:43:53,561 which I loved. 1019 00:43:53,665 --> 00:43:54,632 I mean, Theo used to, like, 1020 00:43:54,735 --> 00:43:56,150 just tell people to fuck off. 1021 00:43:56,254 --> 00:43:58,808 And she threw her tampon at somebody once 1022 00:43:58,912 --> 00:44:01,328 in the audience that was giving her a hard time. 1023 00:44:01,431 --> 00:44:03,571 Like, you know, I just thought, 1024 00:44:03,675 --> 00:44:05,470 oh, my God, that's so amazing. 1025 00:44:05,573 --> 00:44:06,954 It's so John Waters. 1026 00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:10,509 That was such an exciting year. 1027 00:44:10,613 --> 00:44:12,304 Things were really happening. 1028 00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:17,655 Theo was doing a lot of modeling. 1029 00:44:17,758 --> 00:44:19,518 Designers started coming to her, like, 1030 00:44:19,622 --> 00:44:21,141 "You're tattooed and you're gorgeous, 1031 00:44:21,244 --> 00:44:23,143 and, you know, we want you to represent us." 1032 00:44:23,246 --> 00:44:26,698 She had done the Calvin Klein campaign... 1033 00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:27,768 Just be. 1034 00:44:27,872 --> 00:44:29,528 That got blasted 'cause 1035 00:44:29,632 --> 00:44:30,944 they said everybody looked like junkies. 1036 00:44:31,047 --> 00:44:33,222 "Be what?" some critics ask. 1037 00:44:33,325 --> 00:44:35,327 Be dirty? Ragged? 1038 00:44:35,431 --> 00:44:38,676 Made to look like they're strung out, wasted on drugs? 1039 00:44:38,779 --> 00:44:40,229 She was on "The Jon Stewart Show." 1040 00:44:40,332 --> 00:44:41,644 The lead singer for the Lunachicks. 1041 00:44:41,748 --> 00:44:43,335 Everybody welcome Theo. 1042 00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:46,269 When I was-- oy, when I was in school-- 1043 00:44:46,373 --> 00:44:47,201 I'm sorry, "oy"? 1044 00:44:47,305 --> 00:44:48,340 Oy vey! 1045 00:44:48,444 --> 00:44:49,721 The last thing I expected to hear from you 1046 00:44:49,825 --> 00:44:52,310 was, in fact, "oy," I have to say. 1047 00:44:52,413 --> 00:44:56,555 I found this gal, the cover of the "Pretty Ugly" album, 1048 00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:59,110 Barbie head, that we did burn. 1049 00:44:59,213 --> 00:45:01,733 ♪ Why must I stand on my toes 1050 00:45:01,837 --> 00:45:04,011 ♪ Perfect smile and skintight clothes ♪ 1051 00:45:04,115 --> 00:45:06,393 ♪ Cinched waist, no cunt to piss with ♪ 1052 00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:08,636 ♪ A stamp on my ass 1053 00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:10,397 I was six or seven. 1054 00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:11,743 I got this giant Barbie. 1055 00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:13,503 It was super tall. 1056 00:45:13,607 --> 00:45:14,677 It was a drag queen. 1057 00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:16,127 At that moment, it clicked, 1058 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:17,438 and I was like, I want to be that. 1059 00:45:17,542 --> 00:45:18,716 I want to be a giant woman. 1060 00:45:18,819 --> 00:45:20,165 And that's what happened. 1061 00:45:20,269 --> 00:45:23,375 I was trained by Miss Guy and all these drag queens, 1062 00:45:23,479 --> 00:45:26,654 learning how to make myself into that. 1063 00:45:28,139 --> 00:45:32,902 ♪ Bitterness Barbie, boobs are sagging ♪ 1064 00:45:33,006 --> 00:45:35,284 I really enjoy being in front of the camera. 1065 00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:36,768 I enjoy dressing up. 1066 00:45:36,872 --> 00:45:38,459 I enjoyed getting my makeup and hair done. 1067 00:45:38,563 --> 00:45:40,738 I don't think the band really liked it. 1068 00:45:40,841 --> 00:45:43,568 What they have to do is get me to the airport 1069 00:45:43,671 --> 00:45:44,983 from--you know, to New York. 1070 00:45:45,087 --> 00:45:46,882 There was some tension. I felt it. 1071 00:45:46,985 --> 00:45:48,331 And then back for the gig. 1072 00:45:48,435 --> 00:45:49,781 - Guaranteed, right? - They're gonna-- 1073 00:45:49,885 --> 00:45:51,507 We want a written contract that says that 1074 00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:53,164 you'll be back in time for the gig 1075 00:45:53,267 --> 00:45:54,959 or we want a thousand dollars for each of us. 1076 00:45:55,062 --> 00:45:55,994 - Totally. - Yeah. 1077 00:45:56,098 --> 00:45:57,306 If, like, for some reason, 1078 00:45:57,409 --> 00:45:59,757 you're plane is delayed and you miss the gig, 1079 00:45:59,860 --> 00:46:00,758 we can't, like, afford to not... 1080 00:46:00,861 --> 00:46:02,035 - Oh, no. - Just make sure you-- 1081 00:46:02,138 --> 00:46:03,105 The only thing I would miss is soundcheck. 1082 00:46:03,208 --> 00:46:04,796 And then I'd get to the show. 1083 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,039 Um, well, that's all your problem. 1084 00:46:06,142 --> 00:46:08,696 OK, we'll take a smaller fee for that. 1085 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,217 I felt like they didn't want anyone to look too pretty. 1086 00:46:12,321 --> 00:46:14,668 And it's like, why can't we be good-looking too? 1087 00:46:14,772 --> 00:46:16,014 You know, we're funny, and we're gross, 1088 00:46:16,118 --> 00:46:18,741 but it's okay to--to show all sides. 1089 00:46:18,845 --> 00:46:20,018 To me. 1090 00:46:21,468 --> 00:46:24,782 Because on the other side of me was this person 1091 00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:26,887 when I got on stage that was like, 1092 00:46:26,991 --> 00:46:29,234 "Fuck you. Nobody can fuck with me. 1093 00:46:29,338 --> 00:46:31,271 And if anyone does, I will kill you." 1094 00:46:39,451 --> 00:46:41,868 The Lunachicks had a lot of gay fans-- 1095 00:46:41,971 --> 00:46:43,973 gay boys, gay girls, and everything in between. 1096 00:46:44,077 --> 00:46:46,355 Boys dressed up, girls dressed up, 1097 00:46:46,458 --> 00:46:48,288 butch girls, femme boys. 1098 00:46:48,391 --> 00:46:52,430 It was a super fun mix of people at a Lunachicks show. 1099 00:46:54,190 --> 00:46:55,398 By the time of "Jerk of All Trades," 1100 00:46:55,502 --> 00:46:57,262 they were packing out every club they played. 1101 00:46:57,366 --> 00:46:59,540 Plus, then they would also be opening 1102 00:46:59,644 --> 00:47:02,198 for bigger artists and playing amphitheaters and arenas. 1103 00:47:08,860 --> 00:47:12,450 Are you ready to rock, Tokyo? 1104 00:47:12,553 --> 00:47:16,109 The album "Jerk of All Trades" was doing really well, 1105 00:47:16,212 --> 00:47:18,490 and we were going on bigger tours by then. 1106 00:47:18,594 --> 00:47:20,734 ♪ Light as a feather, stiff as a board ♪ 1107 00:47:20,838 --> 00:47:22,805 ♪ Stiff as a week in May 1108 00:47:22,909 --> 00:47:24,842 ♪ I dare you, I dare you 1109 00:47:24,945 --> 00:47:27,016 ♪ Do it now or you can't play 1110 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,846 ♪ Jump the bridge, just for kicks ♪ 1111 00:47:28,949 --> 00:47:31,158 ♪ Jump the bridge and pray 1112 00:47:31,262 --> 00:47:36,957 ♪ I dare you, I dare you, do it and die today ♪ 1113 00:47:37,061 --> 00:47:41,306 ♪ Light as a feather 1114 00:47:41,410 --> 00:47:43,515 ♪ Stiff as a board, stiff as a board ♪ 1115 00:47:46,553 --> 00:47:47,623 You know, there's people 1116 00:47:47,726 --> 00:47:49,245 that just can't take it on tour. 1117 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:53,594 And the fact that the five of us, like, survived so well, 1118 00:47:53,698 --> 00:47:55,113 at least I thought we did. 1119 00:47:55,217 --> 00:47:59,152 I thought we, like-- we really thrived together. 1120 00:47:59,255 --> 00:48:04,191 Five people and a tour manager and a merch girl. 1121 00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:09,058 I saw it all as going very, very, very well. 1122 00:48:09,162 --> 00:48:11,198 There was a lot of laughs. 1123 00:48:11,302 --> 00:48:13,580 There was a lot of laughing going on. 1124 00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:15,202 Welcome to the annual 1125 00:48:15,306 --> 00:48:18,447 Plumber Butt Race Up the Hill contest, 1126 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:19,724 and wait, hold on. 1127 00:48:19,827 --> 00:48:21,139 Let me get a close-up on those. 1128 00:48:21,243 --> 00:48:23,210 Oh, yes, it's contestant number one 1129 00:48:23,314 --> 00:48:24,384 right there on the right. 1130 00:48:24,487 --> 00:48:25,626 That's Chip. 1131 00:48:25,730 --> 00:48:28,215 Contestant number two, Theo, 1132 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,252 and contestant number three, Squid. 1133 00:48:30,355 --> 00:48:32,737 Well, they all look pretty good, I must say. 1134 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,773 This is going to be a tough decision. 1135 00:48:34,877 --> 00:48:38,570 Plumbers, set your mark. Go! 1136 00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:42,195 Oh, my gosh. 1137 00:48:43,782 --> 00:48:45,819 Oh, that was a close race, folks, 1138 00:48:45,923 --> 00:48:47,579 a real close race. 1139 00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:48,787 I don't know. 1140 00:48:48,891 --> 00:48:50,513 I think we might have to have a rematch. 1141 00:48:52,653 --> 00:48:57,106 ♪ You're a mental case 1142 00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:59,212 ♪ 'Bout time I smash your face ♪ 1143 00:48:59,315 --> 00:49:01,248 ♪ Got a habit of steppin' out of line ♪ 1144 00:49:01,352 --> 00:49:03,354 ♪ Oh, yeah, well, here comes your time ♪ 1145 00:49:03,457 --> 00:49:06,012 We would get a lot of young girls 1146 00:49:06,115 --> 00:49:07,565 coming up to us and saying, 1147 00:49:07,668 --> 00:49:11,810 "Oh, my God, you have really changed my way of thinking, 1148 00:49:11,914 --> 00:49:13,605 "of seeing myself in the world 1149 00:49:13,709 --> 00:49:17,747 or helping me understand it's okay to be who I am." 1150 00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,269 When I hear things like that from fans, 1151 00:49:22,373 --> 00:49:24,996 it's like, that makes all that suffering 1152 00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,274 that we did on the side of the road 1153 00:49:27,378 --> 00:49:30,415 and sleeping on floors and, you know, 1154 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,280 running out of gas, like, worth everything. 1155 00:49:33,384 --> 00:49:35,006 ♪ Great green globs of greasy, grimy gopher guts ♪ 1156 00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,111 ♪ Mutilated monkey meat 1157 00:49:36,214 --> 00:49:37,629 ♪ Chopped up little birdies' feet ♪ 1158 00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:39,321 ♪ French fried eyeballs rolling down the dirty street ♪ 1159 00:49:39,424 --> 00:49:41,323 ♪ And I forgot my spoon 1160 00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:44,326 In the beginning, it was like, 1161 00:49:44,429 --> 00:49:46,500 "Oh, my God, we're in a band. This is so fun." 1162 00:49:46,604 --> 00:49:48,295 Is this not made for me? 1163 00:49:48,399 --> 00:49:50,228 But we're also feminists, 1164 00:49:50,332 --> 00:49:51,574 and we're pro-choice, 1165 00:49:51,678 --> 00:49:53,714 and these things are being threatened still. 1166 00:49:53,818 --> 00:49:56,441 My mother also has been fighting 1167 00:49:56,545 --> 00:49:59,582 for her right to choice since the '60s, 1168 00:49:59,686 --> 00:50:01,205 and she continues to fight, 1169 00:50:01,308 --> 00:50:06,348 and I will continue to fight as long as is necessary. 1170 00:50:06,451 --> 00:50:10,559 I found all these shirts, and there's this guy. 1171 00:50:10,662 --> 00:50:12,319 Us and Fugazi, Pearl Jam, 1172 00:50:12,423 --> 00:50:14,908 and L7, who put the whole thing together. 1173 00:50:15,012 --> 00:50:17,462 1992. 1174 00:50:17,566 --> 00:50:20,327 And we're still fighting for our choice today. 1175 00:50:25,850 --> 00:50:27,162 ♪ I can't go on like this 1176 00:50:27,265 --> 00:50:29,440 ♪ I didn't understand a word you said ♪ 1177 00:50:29,543 --> 00:50:31,787 We did do a reunion once before. 1178 00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:33,478 ♪ You didn't mean to not to ♪ 1179 00:50:33,582 --> 00:50:35,066 ♪ But you didn't 'cause you couldn't ♪ 1180 00:50:35,170 --> 00:50:37,034 ♪ But would have if you could have ♪ 1181 00:50:37,137 --> 00:50:38,587 ♪ And you might, but you wouldn't ♪ 1182 00:50:38,690 --> 00:50:40,106 ♪ Say what you mean 1183 00:50:40,209 --> 00:50:43,868 In 2004, we played a big pro-choice show 1184 00:50:43,971 --> 00:50:46,629 in D.C. with Joan Jett. 1185 00:50:46,733 --> 00:50:50,323 ♪ Well, today will soon be yesterday ♪ 1186 00:50:50,426 --> 00:50:54,016 ♪ Tomorrow will be today 1187 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,675 ♪ And I'm waiting every day 1188 00:50:57,778 --> 00:50:59,056 Ah! 1189 00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:00,057 ♪ For you to say what you mean ♪ 1190 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:01,368 ♪ Mean what you say 1191 00:51:01,472 --> 00:51:03,060 ♪ Say what you mean, don't say it mean ♪ 1192 00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:04,440 ♪ Say what you, say what you 1193 00:51:04,544 --> 00:51:07,616 ♪ Say what you, say what you mean ♪ 1194 00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:10,722 all: Lunachicks! 1195 00:51:10,826 --> 00:51:12,759 Lunachicks! 1196 00:51:12,862 --> 00:51:15,106 Lunachicks! Lunachicks! 1197 00:51:15,210 --> 00:51:17,695 Lunachicks! 1198 00:51:17,798 --> 00:51:21,319 Oh, my God. 1199 00:51:21,423 --> 00:51:24,667 Holy--Stormy, you are so adorable. 1200 00:51:24,771 --> 00:51:26,324 Holy shit. 1201 00:51:26,428 --> 00:51:28,223 I have missed you guys so much. 1202 00:51:28,326 --> 00:51:31,674 I was so excited when Theo called me. 1203 00:51:31,778 --> 00:51:34,539 So tell me how this whole thing came about. 1204 00:51:34,643 --> 00:51:37,094 Is there a book that's coming out? 1205 00:51:37,197 --> 00:51:39,061 Yeah, we're working on a book. 1206 00:51:39,165 --> 00:51:40,821 - Yeah. - Are you guys wanting 1207 00:51:40,925 --> 00:51:42,823 to go out and do an actual tour? 1208 00:51:42,927 --> 00:51:44,929 Or are you just wanting to kind of do more, 1209 00:51:45,032 --> 00:51:47,380 like, fly in, fly out-- 1210 00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,347 Can we do, like, some anonymous show 1211 00:51:49,451 --> 00:51:51,349 just very far away, so if we suck, 1212 00:51:51,453 --> 00:51:53,282 that nobody really knows? 1213 00:51:53,386 --> 00:51:54,663 Um, you know, you can't stop people 1214 00:51:54,766 --> 00:51:56,389 from taking cell phones into shows, 1215 00:51:56,492 --> 00:51:59,012 so everything gets recorded now. 1216 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:01,014 Good thing you look so good, Kogan. 1217 00:52:02,326 --> 00:52:03,396 Ditto, Silver. 1218 00:52:03,499 --> 00:52:05,777 You got nothing to hide, girl. 1219 00:52:05,881 --> 00:52:07,745 Don't be shy. 1220 00:52:12,163 --> 00:52:13,785 When we first started, we were literally 1221 00:52:13,889 --> 00:52:17,237 banging on pots and pans in my bedroom of my parents' house, 1222 00:52:17,341 --> 00:52:19,550 and it became more serious. 1223 00:52:19,653 --> 00:52:21,310 ♪ When I look into your big brown eyes ♪ 1224 00:52:21,414 --> 00:52:23,140 We knew that, because we were women, 1225 00:52:23,243 --> 00:52:26,591 people were looking at us to fail. 1226 00:52:26,695 --> 00:52:29,318 And although we never took our image seriously, 1227 00:52:29,422 --> 00:52:33,978 we took very seriously being taken seriously. 1228 00:52:34,081 --> 00:52:35,669 You know, it's like, fuck you. 1229 00:52:35,773 --> 00:52:37,084 We can play. 1230 00:52:37,188 --> 00:52:39,397 Fuck you. We can play better than you. 1231 00:52:39,501 --> 00:52:40,398 We wanted to be kids. 1232 00:52:40,502 --> 00:52:42,262 We still wanted to be kids. 1233 00:52:42,366 --> 00:52:45,438 We wanted to play better than all the guys 1234 00:52:45,541 --> 00:52:48,648 because people really would say, 1235 00:52:48,751 --> 00:52:50,546 "Oh, you guys are pretty good for girls." 1236 00:52:52,376 --> 00:52:54,516 No, we can't book another female band 1237 00:52:54,619 --> 00:52:57,415 this month because we had one playing last month. 1238 00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,763 No, we can't feature another female band in our magazine 1239 00:53:00,867 --> 00:53:03,421 because we did one two weeks ago. 1240 00:53:03,525 --> 00:53:05,216 They had filled their quota. 1241 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,669 That was given as a reason by these people and with no shame. 1242 00:53:11,222 --> 00:53:13,707 There was a rock station in New York. 1243 00:53:13,811 --> 00:53:16,883 They flat-out said, "It's too many female bands 1244 00:53:16,986 --> 00:53:19,368 for one playlist." 1245 00:53:19,472 --> 00:53:21,094 We happened to be playing a show that was 1246 00:53:21,198 --> 00:53:22,820 sponsored by that radio station, 1247 00:53:22,923 --> 00:53:24,891 and they had a banner in front of the stage, 1248 00:53:24,994 --> 00:53:29,206 and Theo was like, "Q104, pure cock rock!" 1249 00:53:29,309 --> 00:53:31,138 And she ripped the banner. 1250 00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:33,210 And they were like, "We're never gonna play you ever now." 1251 00:53:35,522 --> 00:53:37,490 We had the same booking agent, Stormy. 1252 00:53:37,593 --> 00:53:39,906 And the Lunachicks were kind of more of 1253 00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:41,425 an established band, right? 1254 00:53:41,528 --> 00:53:44,531 So Stormy suggested that we could open up for 'em 1255 00:53:44,635 --> 00:53:47,120 on their tour, and we were thrilled. 1256 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:48,397 We're watching 'em play, going, 1257 00:53:48,501 --> 00:53:51,469 Jesus, these guys are like-- they're a big band. 1258 00:53:51,573 --> 00:53:52,884 We got our work cut out for us, 1259 00:53:52,988 --> 00:53:54,161 trying to keep up with them. 1260 00:53:56,129 --> 00:53:57,475 And then "Smash" came out. 1261 00:53:57,579 --> 00:53:59,719 ♪ La, la, la, la, la 1262 00:53:59,822 --> 00:54:02,169 And now we needed someone to open up for us. 1263 00:54:06,484 --> 00:54:09,522 The Offspring had opened for us. 1264 00:54:09,625 --> 00:54:12,387 Then, boom, they're millionaires, 1265 00:54:12,490 --> 00:54:15,424 and we're opening for them at arenas. 1266 00:54:15,528 --> 00:54:17,012 The whole music industry changed, 1267 00:54:17,115 --> 00:54:19,428 and all of a sudden, punk rock became mainstream. 1268 00:54:19,532 --> 00:54:22,707 And people were making money-- and, like, a lot of money. 1269 00:54:22,811 --> 00:54:25,848 And you would hear about some person that got signed, 1270 00:54:25,952 --> 00:54:27,885 and then they were in a bus the next day. 1271 00:54:27,988 --> 00:54:31,682 And we were like, we've been sitting in a van for 12 years. 1272 00:54:31,785 --> 00:54:32,752 Isn't it lovely? 1273 00:54:32,855 --> 00:54:33,925 Lovely mobile home to call our own. 1274 00:54:34,029 --> 00:54:35,513 We finally got an RV. 1275 00:54:35,617 --> 00:54:37,481 And then, like, when we get these little breaks... 1276 00:54:37,584 --> 00:54:39,966 After, what is it-- nine, ten years of touring? 1277 00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:41,692 Like an RV for the first time, 1278 00:54:41,795 --> 00:54:44,384 and then someone would be like, "Yeah, you fucking sell-out!" 1279 00:54:44,488 --> 00:54:46,352 Like, are you kidding me? 1280 00:54:46,455 --> 00:54:47,560 - What's going on? - We're going to the home 1281 00:54:47,663 --> 00:54:49,838 of the Lunachicks on tour. 1282 00:54:49,941 --> 00:54:51,357 Hello, Lunachicks. 1283 00:54:51,460 --> 00:54:53,566 We're here from "Lifestyles of the Poor and--" 1284 00:54:53,669 --> 00:54:54,808 No! 1285 00:54:54,912 --> 00:54:56,707 The roots of what you want are always 1286 00:54:56,810 --> 00:54:59,296 punk rock and start from nothing. 1287 00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:01,608 I mean, that's all really fun. 1288 00:55:01,712 --> 00:55:04,784 But as you become older, and you see other people 1289 00:55:04,887 --> 00:55:08,270 with a whole team of management and publicity 1290 00:55:08,374 --> 00:55:11,618 and money being put into your art 1291 00:55:11,722 --> 00:55:13,827 that makes it more accessible for people, 1292 00:55:13,931 --> 00:55:15,173 there was always that feeling like, 1293 00:55:15,277 --> 00:55:16,934 if we could get that little break, 1294 00:55:17,037 --> 00:55:20,696 that we could reach more people and sell more records. 1295 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,767 You know, they were all phenomenal musicians. 1296 00:55:22,871 --> 00:55:24,735 I remember Gina teaching me how to play guitar 1297 00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:26,599 in the back of the bus one time. 1298 00:55:26,702 --> 00:55:28,739 Seriously, like teaching me guitar riffs that, 1299 00:55:28,842 --> 00:55:30,499 you know, I didn't know how to play. 1300 00:55:30,603 --> 00:55:32,432 It was a very male-dominated world. 1301 00:55:32,536 --> 00:55:33,640 And that's part of why 1302 00:55:33,744 --> 00:55:34,848 I really enjoyed bringing them on tour, 1303 00:55:34,952 --> 00:55:37,299 'cause, like, you don't see this every day. 1304 00:55:37,403 --> 00:55:39,543 This is really cool and different and unique. 1305 00:55:39,646 --> 00:55:42,442 You know, they didn't get their due, for sure. 1306 00:55:42,546 --> 00:55:45,031 The other bands, they all shared with us, 1307 00:55:45,134 --> 00:55:47,102 and they treated us well, 1308 00:55:47,205 --> 00:55:50,450 so I didn't begrudge any of them their success. 1309 00:55:50,554 --> 00:55:53,315 But there was no fathomable reason 1310 00:55:53,419 --> 00:55:57,146 why we weren't also participating in that. 1311 00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,528 We had paid all the dues. 1312 00:55:59,632 --> 00:56:02,289 All the dues had been paid with interest. 1313 00:56:02,393 --> 00:56:04,913 And it just didn't make any sense. 1314 00:56:05,016 --> 00:56:07,985 ♪ You'll never be good enough ♪ 1315 00:56:08,088 --> 00:56:10,505 ♪ Whoa, whoa 1316 00:56:10,608 --> 00:56:13,128 ♪ You got less teeth and more tits ♪ 1317 00:56:13,231 --> 00:56:15,751 We were living the life of being in a band, 1318 00:56:15,855 --> 00:56:17,512 and, I mean, that was everybody's focus. 1319 00:56:17,615 --> 00:56:20,480 There was no, like, going back to law school 1320 00:56:20,584 --> 00:56:21,516 when this is done. 1321 00:56:21,619 --> 00:56:23,207 Like, this is all we were doing. 1322 00:56:23,310 --> 00:56:24,898 I never went to college. 1323 00:56:25,002 --> 00:56:27,660 I mean, it's not like we had eggs in other baskets. 1324 00:56:27,763 --> 00:56:29,386 That was gonna be our lives. 1325 00:56:29,489 --> 00:56:31,974 Never get poop on your creepers. 1326 00:56:32,078 --> 00:56:34,321 We were always scrambling for money. 1327 00:56:34,425 --> 00:56:36,082 I bartended. 1328 00:56:36,185 --> 00:56:37,842 I bussed tables. 1329 00:56:37,946 --> 00:56:41,467 I started go-go dancing in gay and mixed clubs 1330 00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:43,089 and babysitting too. 1331 00:56:43,192 --> 00:56:44,918 I started tattooing. 1332 00:56:45,022 --> 00:56:46,472 I tattooed for 14 years. 1333 00:56:48,094 --> 00:56:49,785 I tell you, man, those Lunachicks, 1334 00:56:49,889 --> 00:56:51,684 those are just, like, the most beautiful creatures 1335 00:56:51,787 --> 00:56:53,789 God has ever graced this planet with, man, 1336 00:56:53,893 --> 00:56:56,136 especially Squid, the bass player. 1337 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:57,862 If I had to fall in love again, 1338 00:56:57,966 --> 00:57:01,452 that's who I would be in love with, I'll tell you what, man. 1339 00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:04,317 Back then, the legends in your life are 1340 00:57:04,421 --> 00:57:06,837 your New York characters from the '70s. 1341 00:57:06,940 --> 00:57:10,288 And they had, all of them, become heroin addicts. 1342 00:57:10,392 --> 00:57:13,568 So by the time we're teenagers, 1343 00:57:13,671 --> 00:57:17,641 it was like, anything but heroin. 1344 00:57:17,744 --> 00:57:20,126 ♪ I'm falling 1345 00:57:20,229 --> 00:57:23,094 Except for those of us who just couldn't resist. 1346 00:57:23,198 --> 00:57:25,890 ♪ I'm falling and there's no one to catch me ♪ 1347 00:57:25,994 --> 00:57:29,894 I was using, more and more, in secret. 1348 00:57:29,998 --> 00:57:31,689 It was a secret until I couldn't keep it 1349 00:57:31,793 --> 00:57:34,623 a secret anymore. 1350 00:57:34,727 --> 00:57:37,902 I remember busting Syd being high at rehearsals 1351 00:57:38,006 --> 00:57:39,386 and being like, you know, "I know you're high. 1352 00:57:39,490 --> 00:57:40,767 You better not do it again." 1353 00:57:40,871 --> 00:57:41,975 She'd be like, "No, no, I won't do it again. 1354 00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:43,080 I promise." 1355 00:57:43,183 --> 00:57:45,496 I had no idea what that was-- what it was about 1356 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:46,911 and how deep it was 1357 00:57:47,015 --> 00:57:48,844 and how much of a monster it is, 1358 00:57:48,948 --> 00:57:50,639 that addiction and that drug. 1359 00:57:50,743 --> 00:57:55,161 ♪ All you got, you're throwing it away ♪ 1360 00:57:55,264 --> 00:58:01,512 It was so painful, being so helpless-- 1361 00:58:01,616 --> 00:58:05,585 wanting to make her stop, not being able to, 1362 00:58:05,689 --> 00:58:07,760 being afraid she's gonna die. 1363 00:58:07,863 --> 00:58:11,073 ♪ Even if I loved you more, turn it into disdain ♪ 1364 00:58:11,177 --> 00:58:15,526 ♪ Even if the sun is shining, it's pouring acid rain ♪ 1365 00:58:15,630 --> 00:58:19,703 ♪ Can't hold on for one more day ♪ 1366 00:58:19,806 --> 00:58:23,361 Me and Sindi had a hard falling out. 1367 00:58:23,465 --> 00:58:27,124 We stopped being friends for a long time. 1368 00:58:27,227 --> 00:58:30,886 It was hard, 'cause, like, Sindi was my sister. 1369 00:58:30,990 --> 00:58:34,718 I had personal experience that nobody else had 1370 00:58:34,821 --> 00:58:38,135 of losing people close to me to drugs. 1371 00:58:38,238 --> 00:58:40,793 And, you know, I adored her. 1372 00:58:40,896 --> 00:58:44,313 And I saw that I was losing her, 1373 00:58:44,417 --> 00:58:46,764 that we were losing her. 1374 00:58:46,868 --> 00:58:51,044 So most of my anger came from sadness. 1375 00:58:55,152 --> 00:58:57,568 When we recorded "Pretty Ugly," 1376 00:58:57,672 --> 00:59:01,089 Sindi recorded her parts and then split. 1377 00:59:01,192 --> 00:59:02,987 She wasn't there much. 1378 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,716 I was very close to Sindi, 1379 00:59:07,820 --> 00:59:09,546 but I think she had a different agenda. 1380 00:59:12,238 --> 00:59:15,241 Being on tour was very different in the early days 1381 00:59:15,344 --> 00:59:16,449 than in the later days. 1382 00:59:16,553 --> 00:59:17,692 Bad mood. 1383 00:59:17,795 --> 00:59:18,796 People started to get a little bit more 1384 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:20,591 snippy with each other. 1385 00:59:20,695 --> 00:59:23,698 I found that I was distancing myself 1386 00:59:23,801 --> 00:59:25,941 from the rest of the band more. 1387 00:59:26,045 --> 00:59:28,806 And there was this divide of 1388 00:59:28,910 --> 00:59:30,601 what they thought was important 1389 00:59:30,705 --> 00:59:32,396 and what I thought was important. 1390 00:59:33,984 --> 00:59:36,296 I didn't care as much about succeeding, 1391 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:37,677 about making it. 1392 00:59:37,781 --> 00:59:40,128 I was still in it to have fun. 1393 00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:45,098 We wanted to be better than we were the year before. 1394 00:59:45,202 --> 00:59:49,240 That was really important to all of us--most of us. 1395 00:59:49,344 --> 00:59:52,485 But I don't think it was as important to Sindi. 1396 00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:54,763 We started writing more complex riffs 1397 00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:57,835 and faster rhythms, and she couldn't keep up. 1398 00:59:57,939 --> 00:59:59,630 And it was a problem. 1399 00:59:59,734 --> 01:00:03,392 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪ 1400 01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:04,911 ♪ Oh, yeah 1401 01:00:05,015 --> 01:00:09,122 They wanted me to tighten up my musical act, 1402 01:00:09,226 --> 01:00:13,748 and I didn't want to. 1403 01:00:13,851 --> 01:00:18,753 To me, it felt like they were looking for a reason 1404 01:00:18,856 --> 01:00:20,996 that the success wasn't coming. 1405 01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:25,829 And at some point, the finger was pointed at me. 1406 01:00:25,932 --> 01:00:29,280 I, fair enough, could be sloppy on stage. 1407 01:00:29,384 --> 01:00:34,665 I did not spend my free time noodling on the guitar, 1408 01:00:34,769 --> 01:00:38,945 because I thought I was in a punk rock band. 1409 01:00:39,049 --> 01:00:41,223 So we said, either you put the effort in, 1410 01:00:41,327 --> 01:00:45,158 or you leave the band, and it's your choice. 1411 01:00:45,262 --> 01:00:49,646 I think she felt betrayed that we would give her an ultimatum, 1412 01:00:49,749 --> 01:00:52,476 because it was her band too. 1413 01:00:52,579 --> 01:00:55,168 It was heartbreaking. 1414 01:00:55,272 --> 01:00:57,964 I cared about them all so much. 1415 01:00:58,068 --> 01:01:00,829 If I had believed I was holding us back, 1416 01:01:00,933 --> 01:01:03,418 I would have done whatever it took. 1417 01:01:03,521 --> 01:01:06,939 I just didn't believe there was a need for it. 1418 01:01:07,042 --> 01:01:08,837 Sindi from the Lunachicks. 1419 01:01:08,941 --> 01:01:11,737 I knew I was a great stage presence. 1420 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,843 I knew it wasn't me. 1421 01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:19,020 But if they were gonna insinuate that it was me, 1422 01:01:19,123 --> 01:01:24,439 any joy that was left then was stabbed in the heart. 1423 01:01:25,751 --> 01:01:29,444 So we all agreed to part ways. 1424 01:01:30,963 --> 01:01:34,967 It wasn't super amicable, 1425 01:01:35,070 --> 01:01:37,417 but they are really important to me. 1426 01:01:37,521 --> 01:01:39,937 They always were important to me. 1427 01:01:41,180 --> 01:01:44,217 Those girls are my lifelong sisters. 1428 01:01:47,531 --> 01:01:50,396 So you guys are on the Iggy Pop tribute album. 1429 01:01:50,499 --> 01:01:52,018 all: Yes. 1430 01:01:52,122 --> 01:01:53,848 There was a recording that we did 1431 01:01:53,951 --> 01:01:57,161 of "The Passenger," the Iggy Pop song. 1432 01:01:58,611 --> 01:01:59,888 I just couldn't get there. 1433 01:01:59,992 --> 01:02:01,303 Like, I just--I was, like, 1434 01:02:01,407 --> 01:02:04,030 shooting coke or something crazy. 1435 01:02:04,134 --> 01:02:08,379 Every 15 minutes, I had to, like, fix. 1436 01:02:08,483 --> 01:02:11,106 I kept getting dressed and trying to leave the house. 1437 01:02:11,210 --> 01:02:12,832 And then I'd just be back on the couch 1438 01:02:12,936 --> 01:02:14,040 with a needle in my arm. 1439 01:02:14,144 --> 01:02:15,248 I never got to the studio. 1440 01:02:15,352 --> 01:02:16,318 I couldn't do it. 1441 01:02:17,872 --> 01:02:20,840 I think, in her mind, going on tour, 1442 01:02:20,944 --> 01:02:23,015 "I'm gonna kick it. 1443 01:02:23,118 --> 01:02:25,672 I'm gonna leave New York and stop." 1444 01:02:25,776 --> 01:02:26,984 She was drug sick 1445 01:02:27,088 --> 01:02:29,090 for the whole time we were in Japan. 1446 01:02:29,193 --> 01:02:33,784 And it's like, Squid-- like, we were in Japan. 1447 01:02:33,888 --> 01:02:37,339 We were in Japan, and you didn't even know it. 1448 01:02:38,893 --> 01:02:40,964 She had her awesome vintage car, 1449 01:02:41,067 --> 01:02:44,243 her '64 Chevy Nova. 1450 01:02:45,451 --> 01:02:48,247 This one night, she was in a bad way, 1451 01:02:48,350 --> 01:02:51,008 and she's doing some kind of heroin-speed combo or-- 1452 01:02:51,112 --> 01:02:52,699 I don't know what she was doing. 1453 01:02:52,803 --> 01:02:55,841 She was picky, skinny, nervous. 1454 01:02:55,944 --> 01:02:58,326 It was bad. 1455 01:02:58,429 --> 01:03:00,259 I'm sitting in the front with her, 1456 01:03:00,362 --> 01:03:03,434 and we're going to get on the Brooklyn Bridge. 1457 01:03:05,264 --> 01:03:09,095 There was, like, one of those concrete dividers. 1458 01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:12,340 She nodded out, hit the divider, 1459 01:03:12,443 --> 01:03:16,171 and the whole car bounced into the lane of-- 1460 01:03:16,275 --> 01:03:17,932 would have been oncoming traffic. 1461 01:03:18,035 --> 01:03:19,623 If there had been traffic, 1462 01:03:19,726 --> 01:03:20,866 if there had been any other cars, 1463 01:03:20,969 --> 01:03:22,868 we would be probably dead. 1464 01:03:22,971 --> 01:03:24,628 But somehow, it wasn't our time. 1465 01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:29,288 I called Syd's dad. 1466 01:03:29,391 --> 01:03:30,634 "Things are bad. 1467 01:03:30,737 --> 01:03:33,016 We have to save her." 1468 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,570 We called an intervention. 1469 01:03:35,673 --> 01:03:38,987 It was a small group of us-- the band, Howie, 1470 01:03:39,091 --> 01:03:41,714 her sister, and her mom and her dad. 1471 01:03:41,818 --> 01:03:43,578 And you have to tell the person, 1472 01:03:43,681 --> 01:03:46,374 "We're out if you can't get your shit together." 1473 01:03:47,893 --> 01:03:49,411 I didn't know at that time 1474 01:03:49,515 --> 01:03:51,413 if she was gonna walk out of the room, 1475 01:03:51,517 --> 01:03:53,346 and I would never see her again. 1476 01:03:55,038 --> 01:03:56,763 I was so ready to go. 1477 01:03:56,867 --> 01:03:58,489 I was just like, get me the fuck out of here. 1478 01:03:58,593 --> 01:04:01,630 Like, I can't help myself. 1479 01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:05,358 I didn't want to lose everything. 1480 01:04:05,462 --> 01:04:07,809 I mean, I never cared about anything 1481 01:04:07,913 --> 01:04:09,915 as much as I cared about the band. 1482 01:04:10,018 --> 01:04:12,089 It was everything. 1483 01:04:12,193 --> 01:04:13,642 So they pulled me out. 1484 01:04:13,746 --> 01:04:15,921 They dropped me into rehab. 1485 01:04:16,024 --> 01:04:17,819 And I stayed clean after that, 1486 01:04:17,923 --> 01:04:20,063 and I've been clean ever since. 1487 01:04:23,445 --> 01:04:26,069 Um, ay-yi-yi-yi-yi. 1488 01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:27,967 Oh, this is where-- 1489 01:04:28,071 --> 01:04:30,211 something about this one. 1490 01:04:30,314 --> 01:04:32,109 Which one? 1491 01:04:32,213 --> 01:04:33,248 - This one. - The deli? 1492 01:04:33,352 --> 01:04:34,767 - This one. - This building? 1493 01:04:34,871 --> 01:04:37,977 Something like methadone clinic, something not cool? 1494 01:04:38,081 --> 01:04:40,600 Well, that's your department. 1495 01:04:40,704 --> 01:04:41,774 - Something dark. - Something dark. 1496 01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:42,879 Something dark. 1497 01:04:42,982 --> 01:04:44,846 Something dark and ouchy. 1498 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:47,228 - Oh, my God! - Oh, my God! 1499 01:05:03,658 --> 01:05:05,142 Is that for me? 1500 01:05:05,246 --> 01:05:07,455 And it's got sprinkles! 1501 01:05:07,558 --> 01:05:10,803 Oh, my God, I just want to hug you again. 1502 01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:12,978 I am so hungry. 1503 01:05:13,081 --> 01:05:14,669 Oh, thank God. 1504 01:05:14,772 --> 01:05:17,154 both: Oh! 1505 01:05:17,258 --> 01:05:21,124 Hey! 1506 01:05:21,227 --> 01:05:24,472 There's something in the air right now, in this place. 1507 01:05:24,575 --> 01:05:25,473 You know what I mean? 1508 01:05:25,576 --> 01:05:28,200 Like, you know, seeing everybody, and... 1509 01:05:28,303 --> 01:05:31,134 there's been a lot of talk. 1510 01:05:31,237 --> 01:05:33,515 You know, I'm feeling a real buzz. 1511 01:05:36,242 --> 01:05:37,278 Squid. 1512 01:05:37,381 --> 01:05:40,384 Really loud, like 11, right? 1513 01:05:40,488 --> 01:05:43,284 ♪ And if I don't pick up the phone ♪ 1514 01:05:43,387 --> 01:05:44,595 Ha! 1515 01:05:44,699 --> 01:05:46,425 "Luxury Problem," I felt like that was 1516 01:05:46,528 --> 01:05:51,637 a really powerful album as musicians and songwriting. 1517 01:05:51,740 --> 01:05:53,777 We had grown a lot. 1518 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,606 We were finely tuned. 1519 01:05:55,710 --> 01:05:57,539 We played our instruments a thousand times better 1520 01:05:57,643 --> 01:05:59,990 than we had when we began. 1521 01:06:00,094 --> 01:06:02,544 ♪ I can't see addicts anymore ♪ 1522 01:06:02,648 --> 01:06:05,685 That album, "Luxury Problem," is fantastic. 1523 01:06:05,789 --> 01:06:08,654 I told my band, you know, we ought to get those guys 1524 01:06:08,757 --> 01:06:10,311 and bring them on tour with us 1525 01:06:10,414 --> 01:06:12,209 so we could spread the joy. 1526 01:06:12,313 --> 01:06:14,625 Spread the filth. 1527 01:06:16,903 --> 01:06:18,284 To go out with two bands 1528 01:06:18,388 --> 01:06:21,287 like the Go-Go's and the Lunachicks together, 1529 01:06:21,391 --> 01:06:23,427 I mean, that's a marriage made in heaven. 1530 01:06:23,531 --> 01:06:25,567 We had so much fun with them on tour. 1531 01:06:25,671 --> 01:06:28,087 It was like just a gang of girls hanging out, 1532 01:06:28,191 --> 01:06:30,055 getting into trouble. 1533 01:06:30,158 --> 01:06:32,195 We all understood each other. 1534 01:06:32,298 --> 01:06:35,370 We--we got the humor. 1535 01:06:35,474 --> 01:06:37,752 Lunachicks! 1536 01:06:37,855 --> 01:06:40,203 And they really cared about keeping humor 1537 01:06:40,306 --> 01:06:43,137 in everything that they did. 1538 01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,001 But let's face it, I don't know if America 1539 01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:46,933 was completely ready for them. 1540 01:06:50,351 --> 01:06:52,939 You know, back then, if you're a girl band going out, 1541 01:06:53,043 --> 01:06:56,564 it was certainly gonna be a tougher audience. 1542 01:06:56,667 --> 01:06:59,705 At some shows, there were knuckle-dragging idiots 1543 01:06:59,808 --> 01:07:01,672 chanting, "Show us your tits." 1544 01:07:01,776 --> 01:07:03,467 It's fucked, you know? 1545 01:07:03,571 --> 01:07:06,574 And so we saw 'em have to deal with that. 1546 01:07:06,677 --> 01:07:08,817 Every show, there's some dick in the audience, 1547 01:07:08,921 --> 01:07:09,956 "Show us your tits." 1548 01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:11,544 Like, it's just a given. 1549 01:07:11,648 --> 01:07:13,132 That happens every show. 1550 01:07:13,236 --> 01:07:16,204 But these were arenas, and hundreds, 1551 01:07:16,308 --> 01:07:18,689 if not thousands of guys, started chanting, 1552 01:07:18,793 --> 01:07:20,760 "Show us your tits!" 1553 01:07:20,864 --> 01:07:23,073 It's hard enough to be out there doing it, 1554 01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:24,764 and then to have that on top of it, 1555 01:07:24,868 --> 01:07:27,802 it was very hard on your psyche. 1556 01:07:27,905 --> 01:07:30,253 The traditionally male-dominated Warped Tour 1557 01:07:30,356 --> 01:07:32,117 has added five bands 1558 01:07:32,220 --> 01:07:34,222 with female members to this year's lineup. 1559 01:07:34,326 --> 01:07:36,638 ♪ You think that you are hot stuff ♪ 1560 01:07:36,742 --> 01:07:39,020 ♪ Think that you're pretty cool ♪ 1561 01:07:39,124 --> 01:07:40,504 On the Warped Tour, 1562 01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:43,404 Blink 182 was one of the headliners. 1563 01:07:43,507 --> 01:07:45,544 They just thought, "Oh, this is a funny joke. 1564 01:07:45,647 --> 01:07:47,994 Like, which girl are we gonna get pregnant tonight?" 1565 01:07:48,098 --> 01:07:49,548 And it was constant. 1566 01:07:49,651 --> 01:07:51,481 "Suck our [bleep]. Show us your tits. 1567 01:07:51,584 --> 01:07:53,759 We want more, you know, [bleep]." 1568 01:07:53,862 --> 01:07:55,071 And so, eventually, 1569 01:07:55,174 --> 01:07:58,039 Theo started giving them shit on stage. 1570 01:07:58,143 --> 01:07:59,799 We're like, you know what? That's not funny. [bleep] you. 1571 01:07:59,903 --> 01:08:01,836 The Lunachicks didn't like our boob comments. 1572 01:08:01,939 --> 01:08:02,630 They didn't like our band. 1573 01:08:02,733 --> 01:08:04,080 The Lunachicks did not like our band. 1574 01:08:04,183 --> 01:08:06,185 This song is for all the girls. 1575 01:08:07,738 --> 01:08:09,292 And it's called "Knuckle Sandwich," 1576 01:08:09,395 --> 01:08:11,673 'cause don't take fuckin' shit from anybody. 1577 01:08:11,777 --> 01:08:14,400 ♪ Don't want to hear it, don't want to hear it ♪ 1578 01:08:14,504 --> 01:08:16,540 ♪ Don't want to hear it, no, no, no, no ♪ 1579 01:08:16,644 --> 01:08:20,475 We had a real heavy guy-band thing going on. 1580 01:08:20,579 --> 01:08:23,651 And being gay, I wasn't enamored 1581 01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:26,964 by all the guys and all the crew. 1582 01:08:27,068 --> 01:08:28,207 You know, it's nothing but guys, 1583 01:08:28,311 --> 01:08:30,002 guys, guys, guys, guys. 1584 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:32,694 And the girls addressed me and said, 1585 01:08:32,798 --> 01:08:34,420 "We want to make sure that you're cool. 1586 01:08:34,524 --> 01:08:37,354 You seem to be, like, annoyed with the boy bands." 1587 01:08:37,458 --> 01:08:39,563 And I was like, "No, man, I'm cool." 1588 01:08:39,667 --> 01:08:42,221 You know, I was in the band for life. 1589 01:08:42,325 --> 01:08:44,637 You know, I was--I was a lifer. 1590 01:08:46,777 --> 01:08:49,125 But then there was a question brought up 1591 01:08:49,228 --> 01:08:51,368 at the end of our last album. 1592 01:08:51,472 --> 01:08:53,059 It's like, "Oh, we want to adjust 1593 01:08:53,163 --> 01:08:54,751 the songwriting credits." 1594 01:08:54,854 --> 01:08:56,753 Oh, really? 1595 01:08:56,856 --> 01:08:58,548 Put your mask on. 1596 01:08:58,651 --> 01:09:00,170 Chip. 1597 01:09:00,274 --> 01:09:02,828 We were very "all for one and one for all." 1598 01:09:02,931 --> 01:09:04,519 So when we first started recording, you know, 1599 01:09:04,623 --> 01:09:05,831 all of the rights to everything 1600 01:09:05,934 --> 01:09:06,901 were shared equally. 1601 01:09:07,004 --> 01:09:07,936 It was a joke. 1602 01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:09,628 I mean, 3/4 of what? 1603 01:09:09,731 --> 01:09:10,836 Nothing. 1604 01:09:10,939 --> 01:09:13,287 A song about my dead hamster? 1605 01:09:13,390 --> 01:09:16,497 As we grew up, we began to write separately 1606 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:21,053 rather than building music together as a group. 1607 01:09:21,157 --> 01:09:24,988 I had said I would like some kind of acknowledgment 1608 01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:28,509 or some extra credit for some of the things that I've done. 1609 01:09:28,612 --> 01:09:30,752 Basically, I was asking for 1610 01:09:30,856 --> 01:09:32,754 a higher percentage of writers' share. 1611 01:09:34,066 --> 01:09:35,343 All right. 1612 01:09:35,447 --> 01:09:37,518 Well, that puts me at the worst level. 1613 01:09:37,621 --> 01:09:39,209 So now you're gonna make me 1614 01:09:39,313 --> 01:09:42,385 the least paid person in the band? 1615 01:09:42,488 --> 01:09:46,734 You know, being the drummer, I--I don't write songs. 1616 01:09:46,837 --> 01:09:49,219 But if I play behind a guitarist, 1617 01:09:49,323 --> 01:09:51,256 I can influence what they're doing. 1618 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,362 Like, you're coming in with A-A-A, B-B-B, 1619 01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:57,952 and I'm going, hey, let's stop here, 1620 01:09:58,055 --> 01:10:01,058 and I'm gonna do a fill, and now let's double time it. 1621 01:10:01,162 --> 01:10:03,406 And I would always write the intros, 1622 01:10:03,509 --> 01:10:06,271 the bridges, the outros. 1623 01:10:06,374 --> 01:10:08,204 I guess I stoked a fire 1624 01:10:08,307 --> 01:10:10,551 that I didn't even realize existed, 1625 01:10:10,654 --> 01:10:13,416 but I hit a nerve, and the whole thing 1626 01:10:13,519 --> 01:10:15,383 kind of just blew up. 1627 01:10:15,487 --> 01:10:18,593 Chip stood up, maybe overturned a table, 1628 01:10:18,697 --> 01:10:20,733 called me every name in the book, 1629 01:10:20,837 --> 01:10:22,010 stormed out of the room. 1630 01:10:22,114 --> 01:10:23,840 Yeah, we are crackers. 1631 01:10:23,943 --> 01:10:26,946 Chip was, to me, my partner in crime. 1632 01:10:27,050 --> 01:10:29,949 I could always count on Chip to go out after the show 1633 01:10:30,053 --> 01:10:32,400 and get into trouble-- like, go see the town, 1634 01:10:32,504 --> 01:10:34,368 stay up all night. 1635 01:10:34,471 --> 01:10:36,611 Chip was like... 1636 01:10:37,716 --> 01:10:40,374 She was like your older brother. 1637 01:10:40,477 --> 01:10:42,824 But at that moment, we didn't see 1638 01:10:42,928 --> 01:10:45,862 how we could go on tour with each other. 1639 01:10:47,346 --> 01:10:51,385 It was maybe just a ridiculous moment. 1640 01:10:51,488 --> 01:10:54,664 I loved my time in the band. 1641 01:10:54,767 --> 01:10:57,183 I would not hesitate to play with the girls. 1642 01:10:57,287 --> 01:10:58,323 Oh, no, no, no. 1643 01:10:58,426 --> 01:11:01,153 I have dreams. 1644 01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:05,813 This is the unfinished love affair. 1645 01:11:05,916 --> 01:11:11,508 ♪ Isn't it hard when you're spoiled rotten ♪ 1646 01:11:11,612 --> 01:11:17,652 ♪ Got another luxury problem 1647 01:11:17,756 --> 01:11:24,728 ♪ Problem 1648 01:11:24,832 --> 01:11:26,074 Whoo! 1649 01:11:29,457 --> 01:11:31,148 ♪ Got a roof over my head 1650 01:11:31,252 --> 01:11:33,012 ♪ Got a tub and a bed 1651 01:11:33,116 --> 01:11:35,152 ♪ Yet my life is on the brink 1652 01:11:35,256 --> 01:11:37,500 ♪ Yeah, my life, it fucking stinks ♪ 1653 01:11:37,603 --> 01:11:40,606 We were all so proud of the last album we just made. 1654 01:11:40,710 --> 01:11:43,402 We were touring with the Buzzcocks. 1655 01:11:43,506 --> 01:11:45,335 We spent a month in Australia. 1656 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,062 Like, we were having a great time. 1657 01:11:48,165 --> 01:11:51,548 But I also started to feel like 1658 01:11:51,652 --> 01:11:53,274 I'd rather quit while we were ahead. 1659 01:11:54,931 --> 01:11:59,107 Summer of 2000, Helen was drumming on that tour. 1660 01:12:01,109 --> 01:12:03,353 Theo, Syd, and I were talking about our future. 1661 01:12:03,457 --> 01:12:04,803 The question came up, you know, well, 1662 01:12:04,906 --> 01:12:07,737 how much longer are we gonna do this? 1663 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,500 And I said, "I think I'm ready to go." 1664 01:12:12,604 --> 01:12:15,676 And Theo, surprisingly, said, "Yeah, me too. 1665 01:12:15,779 --> 01:12:18,437 I feel exactly the same." 1666 01:12:18,541 --> 01:12:20,336 And Syd was like, "Wait, 1667 01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,372 what are you guys talking about?" 1668 01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:26,445 I never thought it would really end. 1669 01:12:27,515 --> 01:12:29,379 It totally fucked me up. 1670 01:12:29,483 --> 01:12:30,415 It was the first time in my whole life-- 1671 01:12:30,518 --> 01:12:32,313 'cause we started so young-- 1672 01:12:32,417 --> 01:12:33,970 that I was, like, without that. 1673 01:12:34,073 --> 01:12:37,042 I was like, what the fuck am I supposed to do now? 1674 01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:38,664 We made this thing. 1675 01:12:38,768 --> 01:12:40,942 And there were other bands that make more money. 1676 01:12:41,046 --> 01:12:42,599 There are bands that sell more records. 1677 01:12:42,703 --> 01:12:44,843 But nobody could be us. 1678 01:12:44,946 --> 01:12:46,741 We were the best version of us. 1679 01:12:46,845 --> 01:12:48,122 That sounds so stupid saying it. 1680 01:12:48,225 --> 01:12:50,780 But it was, like, this feeling like we couldn't be outdone 1681 01:12:50,883 --> 01:12:53,438 because we were just being who we were, 1682 01:12:53,541 --> 01:12:54,991 and that felt perfect. 1683 01:12:55,094 --> 01:12:59,444 And I think I have always wanted to feel that again. 1684 01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:01,998 Hi, everybody. 1685 01:13:04,276 --> 01:13:07,003 Tonight we're going to be celebrating the Lunachicks catalog. 1686 01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:12,111 Feel free to sing along. 1687 01:13:38,103 --> 01:13:42,245 It wasn't that long after we broke up, 1688 01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:45,075 I found out I was really sick. 1689 01:13:45,179 --> 01:13:46,836 I had cancer, 1690 01:13:46,939 --> 01:13:50,633 and I needed emergency surgery. 1691 01:13:50,736 --> 01:13:52,324 I went into the hospital, 1692 01:13:52,428 --> 01:13:56,639 and Gina and Theo were there with me. 1693 01:13:56,742 --> 01:14:01,126 And I, like, had this moment where I just-- 1694 01:14:01,229 --> 01:14:06,580 you know, who fucking cares how many records you sold? 1695 01:14:06,683 --> 01:14:08,754 I've had, like, this fantastic life 1696 01:14:08,858 --> 01:14:11,826 that money can't buy, you know, 1697 01:14:11,930 --> 01:14:14,035 the kind of things that we did 1698 01:14:14,139 --> 01:14:16,141 and the times that we had together. 1699 01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:21,146 The fact that they were there with me was-- 1700 01:14:21,249 --> 01:14:24,460 like, I got--I got, that, like, we--we won. 1701 01:14:32,398 --> 01:14:34,539 - Oh, my God. - Oh. 1702 01:14:39,785 --> 01:14:41,511 Attack of the 50-foot woman! 1703 01:14:44,134 --> 01:14:46,792 Oh, my God, Gina! 1704 01:14:53,178 --> 01:14:54,662 Oh, that's some perspective, isn't it? 1705 01:14:54,766 --> 01:14:55,698 It's a little too much perspective. 1706 01:14:55,801 --> 01:14:57,389 A little too much perspective. 1707 01:15:07,157 --> 01:15:09,643 I came to LA in 1997. 1708 01:15:09,746 --> 01:15:12,749 I have no history of drug use here, 1709 01:15:12,853 --> 01:15:15,372 so it was like a clean slate. 1710 01:15:15,476 --> 01:15:17,892 I'm coming up on 20 years of recovery off of heroin, 1711 01:15:17,996 --> 01:15:20,032 off of alcohol, off of pills. 1712 01:15:20,136 --> 01:15:21,931 Yes, my dear. 1713 01:15:22,034 --> 01:15:23,795 It was really important to me 1714 01:15:23,898 --> 01:15:26,591 to just not hide from who I am. 1715 01:15:26,694 --> 01:15:28,316 Hey, everybody, you're here with Becky Wreck today. 1716 01:15:28,420 --> 01:15:29,525 Guess what we're making. 1717 01:15:29,628 --> 01:15:31,768 Carne motherfucking asada! 1718 01:15:31,872 --> 01:15:32,631 Yeah! 1719 01:15:32,735 --> 01:15:35,013 I'm a private chef now. 1720 01:15:35,116 --> 01:15:37,981 You know, I've always felt the anti-queer vibe 1721 01:15:38,085 --> 01:15:41,398 from people, but now I feel the ageism. 1722 01:15:41,502 --> 01:15:43,228 I mean, I never used face cream. 1723 01:15:43,331 --> 01:15:44,505 I never used earplugs. 1724 01:15:44,609 --> 01:15:46,334 I mean, all the things I never did, 1725 01:15:46,438 --> 01:15:49,752 they take--it shows, you know, 1726 01:15:49,855 --> 01:15:50,718 but I mean, whatever. 1727 01:15:50,822 --> 01:15:51,857 What do I care? 1728 01:15:51,961 --> 01:15:54,135 My history of my life is on my face. 1729 01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:57,138 I'm still here, and I'm still rocking. 1730 01:16:03,213 --> 01:16:05,699 I've got a house in the country, 1731 01:16:05,802 --> 01:16:07,459 in Pennsylvania, 1732 01:16:07,563 --> 01:16:11,359 and I maintain a 3-acre property. 1733 01:16:12,809 --> 01:16:15,743 I have a job, a loving wife, 1734 01:16:15,847 --> 01:16:18,781 and I got my drums in the barn. 1735 01:16:18,884 --> 01:16:20,990 Well, you see the beard. 1736 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,305 I grew up in a time 1737 01:16:26,409 --> 01:16:29,067 when you really didn't come out like that. 1738 01:16:30,516 --> 01:16:33,174 Now kids are coming out as trans. 1739 01:16:33,278 --> 01:16:34,590 You know, it's like, for me, 1740 01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:37,351 it's like I had to wait my whole life. 1741 01:16:37,454 --> 01:16:40,561 You know, people have always told me, "Chip, you're a dude. 1742 01:16:40,665 --> 01:16:42,356 You're a dude." 1743 01:16:42,459 --> 01:16:45,601 So now I'm enjoying this, you know? 1744 01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:47,430 I gotta tell you, the testosterone thing 1745 01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:49,087 is pretty fucking cool. 1746 01:16:51,986 --> 01:16:53,712 I work as a makeup artist now 1747 01:16:53,816 --> 01:16:55,714 in the fashion industry. 1748 01:16:57,129 --> 01:17:00,167 Being a woman who's aging, it's not easy. 1749 01:17:00,270 --> 01:17:02,514 And then coming from that industry, 1750 01:17:02,618 --> 01:17:04,758 I think it makes it even worse. 1751 01:17:04,861 --> 01:17:06,449 I feel more and more comfortable about it 1752 01:17:06,552 --> 01:17:07,795 every day, but still, 1753 01:17:07,899 --> 01:17:10,487 I'm working on so much to feel good. 1754 01:17:10,591 --> 01:17:12,282 Do you have any red lipsticks? 1755 01:17:12,386 --> 01:17:13,663 Of course. 1756 01:17:13,767 --> 01:17:17,494 And I also want to tell other women that it's OK 1757 01:17:17,598 --> 01:17:19,911 and tell my daughter that it's OK. 1758 01:17:20,014 --> 01:17:22,189 You don't have to be a Barbie doll. 1759 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,331 It's so hard with everything that we're fed, 1760 01:17:26,434 --> 01:17:29,679 still, to really believe that. 1761 01:17:33,269 --> 01:17:35,064 My single came out, 1762 01:17:35,167 --> 01:17:38,895 and I am preparing for the music video. 1763 01:17:38,999 --> 01:17:41,001 I have two dancers, um, 1764 01:17:41,104 --> 01:17:44,970 and I am making these masks for them to wear. 1765 01:17:45,419 --> 01:17:48,249 The hardest part about being an artist or a musician 1766 01:17:48,353 --> 01:17:51,011 is having to sell your personal self. 1767 01:17:51,114 --> 01:17:52,737 I don't have the personality. 1768 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,946 It's not who I am. 1769 01:17:55,049 --> 01:17:58,432 This is who I am, you know, what I make. 1770 01:17:58,535 --> 01:18:01,021 Would you be scared if you saw this? 1771 01:18:01,124 --> 01:18:03,609 ♪ Break the rules 1772 01:18:03,713 --> 01:18:06,716 Only 1% out of all the billions 1773 01:18:06,820 --> 01:18:09,512 of incredibly talented artists out there 1774 01:18:09,615 --> 01:18:12,929 probably make a living doing art. 1775 01:18:13,033 --> 01:18:17,416 So I do resent the struggle of always being broke 1776 01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,695 and always trying to figure out, what am I doing? 1777 01:18:19,798 --> 01:18:21,144 This is crazy--I'm too old 1778 01:18:21,248 --> 01:18:22,974 to be piecemealing my life together, 1779 01:18:23,077 --> 01:18:24,665 and I should have a real job. 1780 01:18:24,769 --> 01:18:27,357 But that's just not me. 1781 01:18:27,461 --> 01:18:30,188 I've never stopped creating. 1782 01:18:31,879 --> 01:18:34,675 For me, if I stopped, I would probably die. 1783 01:18:41,509 --> 01:18:44,961 It's the last day of business of my restaurant 1784 01:18:45,065 --> 01:18:47,446 that I opened in 2005. 1785 01:18:47,550 --> 01:18:50,933 This was my career after my music career. 1786 01:18:51,416 --> 01:18:53,142 Our lease expired, and our neighborhood is 1787 01:18:53,245 --> 01:18:55,454 turning a little corporate corner. 1788 01:18:55,558 --> 01:18:58,906 So this will be, like, a BMW showroom or something. 1789 01:19:00,390 --> 01:19:02,668 I feel a lot of things. 1790 01:19:02,772 --> 01:19:05,533 This whole identity just is dissolving 1791 01:19:05,637 --> 01:19:07,743 around me, you know? 1792 01:19:07,846 --> 01:19:10,435 I kind of feel like it's me again. 1793 01:19:10,538 --> 01:19:12,126 all: Sydney! Sydney! 1794 01:19:12,230 --> 01:19:14,991 I really feel artistic again. 1795 01:19:15,095 --> 01:19:16,510 I feel creative again. 1796 01:19:16,613 --> 01:19:18,167 It's, like, rushing at me, 1797 01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:20,859 like these football players, like, charging, 1798 01:19:20,963 --> 01:19:22,758 you know, on some play. 1799 01:19:22,861 --> 01:19:24,656 I don't know anything about football. 1800 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,071 Oof. 1801 01:19:26,175 --> 01:19:28,073 Oh, my God, you can see the dust flying. 1802 01:19:29,695 --> 01:19:31,801 Hello, WFMU listeners. 1803 01:19:31,905 --> 01:19:33,182 This is the "Rock and Roller Derby" show. 1804 01:19:33,285 --> 01:19:35,287 I am Suzy Hotrod, your host. 1805 01:19:39,326 --> 01:19:41,293 ♪ Za-za-za-za 1806 01:19:42,605 --> 01:19:45,125 I think I'm gonna stick with my promise 1807 01:19:45,228 --> 01:19:47,990 that every week until the Lunachicks reunion shows 1808 01:19:48,093 --> 01:19:50,061 in November, I'm gonna play a Lunachicks song, 1809 01:19:50,164 --> 01:19:51,821 because I love that band so much. 1810 01:19:55,445 --> 01:19:56,757 It took us a few years to get it together. 1811 01:19:56,861 --> 01:19:58,034 ♪ Bad, bad man 1812 01:19:58,138 --> 01:20:00,796 ♪ Bad, bad man, bad, bad man 1813 01:20:00,899 --> 01:20:03,729 And then, of course, we got shut down by the pandemic. 1814 01:20:06,802 --> 01:20:08,734 But we're finally ready to play. 1815 01:20:11,668 --> 01:20:14,361 Hello, Cleveland. 1816 01:20:14,464 --> 01:20:16,708 Check, check, check, check, check. 1817 01:20:16,812 --> 01:20:19,607 ♪ Ooh, yeah 1818 01:20:26,649 --> 01:20:28,754 Michael! 1819 01:20:28,858 --> 01:20:31,309 - Hi, how are you? - Hi. 1820 01:20:31,412 --> 01:20:33,069 Hi, hi, hi. 1821 01:20:33,173 --> 01:20:34,105 Wow. 1822 01:20:34,208 --> 01:20:36,590 Wow, you're, uh-- you guys are old. 1823 01:20:39,006 --> 01:20:40,870 Good, good. 1824 01:20:40,974 --> 01:20:41,906 Good, good. 1825 01:20:42,009 --> 01:20:45,668 Yes, we have arrived, 1826 01:20:45,771 --> 01:20:47,773 32 years later. 1827 01:20:58,923 --> 01:21:00,372 How are those knees holding up? 1828 01:21:00,476 --> 01:21:01,580 - Not. - No? 1829 01:21:05,032 --> 01:21:06,585 OK, let's get up. Sorry. 1830 01:21:12,246 --> 01:21:14,386 We continued working on the book. 1831 01:21:14,490 --> 01:21:16,216 Book is done. 1832 01:21:18,563 --> 01:21:20,876 The title of the book is "Fallopian Rhapsody." 1833 01:21:20,979 --> 01:21:23,982 It's named after their song. 1834 01:21:24,086 --> 01:21:25,604 Finally, it's actually here. 1835 01:21:25,708 --> 01:21:26,951 You guys, we have a book. 1836 01:21:27,054 --> 01:21:28,780 It's so crazy! 1837 01:21:32,128 --> 01:21:33,992 ♪ Shake, shake, shake 1838 01:21:48,213 --> 01:21:49,559 We're ending there. 1839 01:21:53,943 --> 01:21:59,190 I'm so psyched to get on stage with my best friends, 1840 01:21:59,293 --> 01:22:01,951 who are so kickass and remarkable. 1841 01:22:02,055 --> 01:22:05,230 And I couldn't be more proud to be on stage, 1842 01:22:05,334 --> 01:22:07,646 kicking it and playing rock 'n' roll, 1843 01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:09,752 because, come on, 1844 01:22:09,855 --> 01:22:11,616 it's the funnest thing in the world. 1845 01:22:11,719 --> 01:22:12,720 OK? 1846 01:22:14,688 --> 01:22:16,310 Years in the making. 1847 01:22:16,414 --> 01:22:17,725 Yeah! 1848 01:22:17,829 --> 01:22:19,486 We made it. 1849 01:22:19,589 --> 01:22:20,936 It's the Grog Shop. 1850 01:22:21,039 --> 01:22:23,386 - Grog show! - The Grog Shop. 1851 01:22:32,671 --> 01:22:34,639 Love you. 1852 01:22:38,919 --> 01:22:40,265 Ready? 1853 01:22:40,369 --> 01:22:42,750 We're gonna go in there and fucking kill it. 1854 01:24:10,252 --> 01:24:17,362 ♪ You're a 1855 01:24:17,466 --> 01:24:20,365 ♪ Mental case, 'bout time I smash your face ♪ 1856 01:24:20,469 --> 01:24:22,505 ♪ Got a habit of stepping out of line ♪ 1857 01:24:22,609 --> 01:24:24,507 ♪ Oh, yeah, well, here comes your time ♪ 1858 01:24:24,611 --> 01:24:27,786 ♪ You're a damn disgrace, an insult to the human race ♪ 1859 01:24:27,890 --> 01:24:30,065 ♪ Try and make me feel bad all the time ♪ 1860 01:24:30,168 --> 01:24:32,619 ♪ Good thing you're not my sign ♪ 1861 01:24:32,722 --> 01:24:35,035 ♪ Oh, can't have me 1862 01:24:35,139 --> 01:24:37,520 ♪ Can't have me 1863 01:24:37,624 --> 01:24:39,212 ♪ You always want what you can't have ♪ 1864 01:24:39,315 --> 01:24:41,421 ♪ And, baby, you can't have me ♪ 1865 01:24:47,530 --> 01:24:48,842 ♪ You're 1866 01:24:48,945 --> 01:24:51,120 Getting to play together for the first time, 1867 01:24:51,224 --> 01:24:52,949 talk a little bit about what that was like 1868 01:24:53,053 --> 01:24:55,055 to be together again on the stage. 1869 01:24:55,159 --> 01:24:58,438 ♪ A bleeding heart 1870 01:24:58,541 --> 01:25:00,716 ♪ Not even worth a fart 1871 01:25:00,819 --> 01:25:03,063 ♪ Got the worst halitosis that I've smelled ♪ 1872 01:25:03,167 --> 01:25:04,892 ♪ You can just go to hell 1873 01:25:04,996 --> 01:25:06,653 It's like another world. 1874 01:25:06,756 --> 01:25:09,414 Like, instead of we had something to prove, 1875 01:25:09,518 --> 01:25:13,315 it's like people wanted to like us. 1876 01:25:13,418 --> 01:25:14,902 It was a completely different 1877 01:25:15,006 --> 01:25:17,319 fucking universe out there. 1878 01:25:17,422 --> 01:25:20,598 A world where everybody wants you to win. 1879 01:25:32,196 --> 01:25:34,232 ♪ You can't have me 1880 01:25:34,336 --> 01:25:38,029 ♪ Can't have me, can't have me ♪ 1881 01:25:38,133 --> 01:25:40,238 ♪ Always want what you can't have ♪ 1882 01:25:40,342 --> 01:25:44,139 ♪ Can't have me, can't have me ♪ 1883 01:25:44,242 --> 01:25:46,658 ♪ Can't have me, me, me, me 1884 01:25:46,762 --> 01:25:48,004 ♪ Me 1885 01:25:52,457 --> 01:25:55,080 We have a special surprise for you tonight. 1886 01:25:56,530 --> 01:26:01,121 It's our old friend, Sindi B! 1887 01:26:10,993 --> 01:26:15,135 ♪ Well, I am Jan Brady 1888 01:26:15,239 --> 01:26:16,688 ♪ And you must believe that 1889 01:26:16,792 --> 01:26:19,657 ♪ Or forever perish in your doubt ♪ 1890 01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:24,938 Being back on stage with the Chicks felt like home. 1891 01:26:25,041 --> 01:26:28,631 It's natural, like magnets that pull us together. 1892 01:26:31,289 --> 01:26:33,533 I've been living in Germany for 15 years, 1893 01:26:33,636 --> 01:26:36,984 not playing in a band, but doing other stuff, 1894 01:26:37,088 --> 01:26:38,779 like having a family 1895 01:26:38,883 --> 01:26:42,058 and stuff that is very un-rock 'n' roll. 1896 01:26:42,162 --> 01:26:45,061 But I'm still rock 'n' roll. 1897 01:26:45,165 --> 01:26:47,236 ♪ What a trip 1898 01:26:47,340 --> 01:26:50,170 ♪ There I am 1899 01:26:56,659 --> 01:27:02,044 These lifelong friends who are my chosen family, 1900 01:27:02,147 --> 01:27:04,149 being together on stage, 1901 01:27:04,253 --> 01:27:06,704 there is nothing like it. 1902 01:27:09,776 --> 01:27:11,502 It's a once-in-a-lifetime thing 1903 01:27:11,605 --> 01:27:13,366 that has lasted a lifetime. 1904 01:27:13,469 --> 01:27:16,092 ♪ Miss Demeanor on the stage ♪ 1905 01:27:16,196 --> 01:27:18,957 ♪ Miss Hap, oh, I implore you 1906 01:27:19,061 --> 01:27:22,098 ♪ It's no mystery, I don't want to know you ♪ 1907 01:27:22,202 --> 01:27:24,791 ♪ Miss America, I can't ignore you ♪ 1908 01:27:24,894 --> 01:27:28,070 ♪ Can't wipe out all our progress ♪ 1909 01:27:28,173 --> 01:27:30,900 ♪ With a little cotton ball 1910 01:27:31,004 --> 01:27:33,524 ♪ Slice and dice your face to perfection ♪ 1911 01:27:33,627 --> 01:27:36,492 ♪ Slip up a word and down you fall ♪ 1912 01:27:36,596 --> 01:27:39,115 ♪ Teeth are capped, lipo-sucked ♪ 1913 01:27:39,219 --> 01:27:42,567 ♪ Hair is set and nose is contoured ♪ 1914 01:27:42,671 --> 01:27:45,329 ♪ Tummy tucked and boobs are lifted ♪ 1915 01:27:45,432 --> 01:27:48,159 ♪ Uncross your legs, your pantyhose shifted ♪ 1916 01:27:48,263 --> 01:27:49,194 ♪ Am I smiling enough 1917 01:27:49,298 --> 01:27:50,541 ♪ Am I smiling too much 1918 01:27:50,644 --> 01:27:52,336 ♪ Am I tucked in and buckled 1919 01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:53,923 ♪ Do my tits touch 1920 01:27:54,027 --> 01:27:55,339 ♪ Hi, how are you 1921 01:27:55,442 --> 01:27:56,788 ♪ How high are you 1922 01:27:56,892 --> 01:27:59,722 ♪ Let's get started, it's never enough ♪ 1923 01:28:08,283 --> 01:28:11,286 ♪ You put the extra in ordinary ♪ 1924 01:28:11,389 --> 01:28:14,565 ♪ You add the minus to the plus size ♪ 1925 01:28:14,668 --> 01:28:17,395 ♪ You put the blues into my brown eyes ♪ 1926 01:28:17,499 --> 01:28:20,295 ♪ You put the turd into Saturday ♪ 1927 01:28:20,398 --> 01:28:23,298 ♪ Can't wipe out all our progress ♪ 1928 01:28:23,401 --> 01:28:25,886 ♪ With a little cotton ball 1929 01:28:25,990 --> 01:28:28,717 ♪ Slice and dice your ass to perfection ♪ 1930 01:28:28,820 --> 01:28:30,960 ♪ Slip up a word and down you fall ♪ 1931 01:28:31,064 --> 01:28:32,479 ♪ Am I smiling enough 1932 01:28:32,583 --> 01:28:33,998 ♪ Am I smiling too much 1933 01:28:34,101 --> 01:28:35,551 ♪ Am I tucked in and buckled 1934 01:28:35,655 --> 01:28:37,104 ♪ Do my tits touch 1935 01:28:37,208 --> 01:28:38,520 ♪ Hi, how are you 1936 01:28:38,623 --> 01:28:40,349 ♪ How high are you 1937 01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:43,076 ♪ Less teeth and more tits, it's never enough ♪ 1938 01:28:44,974 --> 01:28:50,221 ♪ Never be good enough 1939 01:28:50,325 --> 01:28:52,119 ♪ You got less teeth and more tits ♪ 1940 01:28:52,223 --> 01:28:54,398 ♪ What a bunch of hypocrites trying to change the world ♪ 1941 01:28:54,501 --> 01:28:55,675 ♪ Oh, oh, oh 1942 01:28:55,778 --> 01:28:58,263 ♪ Bonded tooth smiles, traveled so many miles ♪ 1943 01:28:58,367 --> 01:28:59,748 ♪ What you gonna do now 1944 01:28:59,851 --> 01:29:00,990 ♪ Oh, oh, oh 1945 01:29:01,094 --> 01:29:05,374 ♪ Hey, yo 1946 01:29:05,478 --> 01:29:08,377 ♪ Something different and meaningful ♪ 1947 01:29:08,481 --> 01:29:10,621 ♪ Makes that smile not seem no evil ♪ 1948 01:29:10,724 --> 01:29:12,795 ♪ When that crown falls off your head ♪ 1949 01:29:12,899 --> 01:29:15,142 ♪ Will you still feel better off dead ♪ 1950 01:29:15,246 --> 01:29:16,454 ♪ Yeah 1951 01:29:16,558 --> 01:29:19,526 ♪ I wanna see something else 1952 01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:24,393 ♪ Why don't you show me something else ♪ 1953 01:29:24,497 --> 01:29:28,949 ♪ I want so much to see something else ♪ 1954 01:29:29,053 --> 01:29:33,747 ♪ Why don't you show me something else ♪ 1955 01:29:33,851 --> 01:29:38,096 ♪ Hey, hey 1956 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:41,617 ♪ Hey, yeah 1957 01:29:44,551 --> 01:29:46,104 Oh, my goodness. 1958 01:30:02,466 --> 01:30:03,639 Something, something there. 1959 01:30:03,743 --> 01:30:05,020 Something, something. Help. 1960 01:30:11,509 --> 01:30:13,822 ♪ Ugliness is only skin deep ♪ 1961 01:30:13,925 --> 01:30:16,549 ♪ And I know the beauty is a beast ♪ 1962 01:30:16,652 --> 01:30:18,999 ♪ Ugliness is only skin deep 1963 01:30:19,103 --> 01:30:22,934 ♪ And I know the beauty is a beast ♪ 1964 01:30:23,038 --> 01:30:27,836 both: ♪ Beauty is a beast, beauty is a beast ♪ 1965 01:30:27,939 --> 01:30:33,531 ♪ Beauty is a beast, beauty is a beast ♪ 1966 01:30:33,635 --> 01:30:35,188 Guitar solo, bridge, something. 1967 01:30:35,291 --> 01:30:36,603 I don't know. 1968 01:30:36,707 --> 01:30:38,536 Maybe do that thing from the beginning. 1969 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,469 - That's this. - Oh. 1970 01:30:40,573 --> 01:30:42,816 I can do that, something off of the-- 1971 01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,060 and then just... 1972 01:30:45,163 --> 01:30:47,131 ♪ Pretty ugly 1973 01:30:47,234 --> 01:30:48,650 both: ♪ Pretty ugly 1974 01:30:48,753 --> 01:30:50,755 - ♪ It's a thin line - ♪ Pretty ugly 1975 01:30:50,859 --> 01:30:53,309 - ♪ Want you all the time - ♪ Pretty ugly 1976 01:30:53,413 --> 01:30:55,760 - ♪ Face I love to hate - ♪ Pretty ugly 1977 01:30:55,864 --> 01:30:58,038 - ♪ Try to stare - ♪ Pretty ugly 1978 01:30:58,142 --> 01:31:00,765 - ♪ And I don't care - ♪ Pretty ugly 1979 01:31:00,869 --> 01:31:03,043 - ♪ It's a thin line - ♪ Pretty ugly 1980 01:31:03,147 --> 01:31:05,460 - ♪ In your own mind - ♪ Pretty ugly 1981 01:31:05,563 --> 01:31:06,702 ♪ You one ugly son of a bitch ♪ 1982 01:31:06,806 --> 01:31:08,497 ♪ Pretty ugly 1983 01:31:08,601 --> 01:31:10,672 - ♪ Butt ugly - ♪ Pretty ugly 1984 01:31:10,775 --> 01:31:12,812 - ♪ But I want to kiss you - ♪ Pretty ugly 1985 01:31:12,915 --> 01:31:15,470 - ♪ On your ugly lips - ♪ Pretty ugly 1986 01:31:15,573 --> 01:31:17,506 ♪ You ugly son of a bitch 1987 01:31:19,232 --> 01:31:20,992 ♪ You one ugly mo-- ugly motherfucker ♪